Sasanian - Ardashir III

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, Feb 17, 2016.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Tonight's 'new to me' is an AR drachm of the Sasanian king Ardashir III. A grandson of the most common Sasanian ruler Khusru II, the 8 year old Ardashir's reign started in one year and ended in the next for a total of about 7 months so we get some like this dated year two. I'm reading the mint as AY but I am not certain on this.
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    Ardashir's coins look very much like his grandfather's but he has no beard and there are a few other distinctions even if you do not read the legends. My bad attitude says why pay more for a coin that looks so much like a common coin but, thinking about it, coins of Tetricus I, Marius and Domitianus II all look a lot alike as well and we make a big deal about those differences. For comparison, below is a Khushu II drachm. How much more is a coin from a 7 month reign of a child compared to a 38 year reign of a major figure?
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  3. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Well, Khusro II coins are pretty common, I wouldn't buy any (I have 3 or 4) except for rare types. Ardashir III I have too, one drachm, I paid 90 dollars for it, and gladly, because he's a rare king, succumbed young to the murder that was rife in his time. Also, I find Khusro II a stupid man. But his coins got copied by his remaining family, and by the Arabs, and by the Huns, and those coins I like and gladly pay for.
    The legends are easy to read if you have the Göbl book.
     
  4. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    36 mm x 3.85 grams
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  5. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    I never got around collecting coins from them, should start one day, I only have seal stone from them see my best example, very difficult business many fakes are created.
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice, that's a sweet Ardashir III addition, Mentor (congrats) ...

    I don't have any examples of this guy, but I do have a not so common example showing his
    grandson, Khurso-II

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    => oh, and I also have a Sasanian Kingdom example of Peroz I

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    ... hoping these guys are welcome in your Sassy coin-thread?

    :rolleyes:

     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Anoob: What is your reading of this mint?
     
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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    If I were allowed only one coin to represent all Sasanians, I might like a Peroz like Steve's. They are hefty, well made coins - lovely to see, fun to hold - compared to the thin later ones.
     
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  9. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    17C.Xusro I.jpg This is my drachm of king Khosrow I (531-579), nicknamed Anushirvan, With The Immortal Soul, possibly one of the best kings ever. Mint Ardashir Khurra (Firuzabad), date 22 = 552.
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i still only have 1 true sassanian coin! :bag:

    grandpa...

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  11. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I read the mint as AY as well. I believe this is the same coin mint and date as yours.
     
  12. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I see why you would choose a nice "mid point" but I ike Shapur I not really representative of the hole series but I think he did it quite well.
     
  13. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Shapur I looks really great on his coins.

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  14. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    19A.Late and nice.jpg


    On this picture, we see Hormizd IV, the father of Khosrow II; then Khosrow himself with an ugly portrait, Khosrow with a fine portrait, and Ardashir III, the baby King. The first and the third coins have ominous c/ms: countermarking usually means downwards trodding and conquering.
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have not seen the third coin before. What can you tell about the marks (who, when, where)? I had heard the first was a copy issue not just c/m's on official Sasanian coins. Do you agree?
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  16. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I heard that too. I 'll try and find it out.
     
  17. Laurentiu

    Laurentiu New Member

  18. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    @Laurentiu: The coin you linked looks like it's Khusro I (531-579 AD), Year 46, mintmark BBA (Court Mint). Oh, and welcome to Coin Talk!
     
  19. Gavin Richardson

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  20. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    My little Sasanian collection (so far):

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    @Pellinore, those Khusro I and Shapur I examples are incredible. :wideyed:
     
  21. Laurentiu

    Laurentiu New Member

    @Parthicus Thanks a lot. I spent a few hours looking over some catalogs and I speculated it was Khusro I, but I wasn't very sure. I could barely make out his name, but the rest of the markings helped.
     
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