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<p>[QUOTE="sand, post: 8157415, member: 118540"][USER=105282]@Harry G[/USER] My personal preference, for your particular coin, is that, I prefer the original desert patina, versus the final result.</p><p>However, I think it was an interesting experiment, to see if you could remove the sand/dirt. If, somehow, you had been able to remove the sand/dirt, and if the end result had been a coin with a uniform, dark green patina, then that would have been better, than the desert patina, in my opinion.</p><p>I can't tell for sure, but it seems like you removed some of the green patina. For example, on the Emperor's cheekbone and nose, and on the lower part of the Emperor's forehead.</p><p>On the other hand, maybe the green patina was fake.</p><p>I'm not very good at removing desert patina. In the few instances, in which I've tried to remove parts of the desert patina, using a razor and a microscope, I usually try to remove the brown dirt, and leave the green areas alone, and leave the underlying green patina alone.</p><p>Sometimes, I've attempted to remove some of the dirt, which was on the devices, and leave the dirt on the fields alone, if the dirt on the fields is nice and even.</p><p>However, so far, I have not had good results, usually.</p><p>Like [USER=123797]@corvusconstantius[/USER] I usually try to avoid coins with desert patinas, because I worry that the desert patina is artificial, and I worry that someone was trying to hide major flaws, or tooling, or signs of fake casting. When I see a desert patina, I also wonder, if the underlying green patina is also fake.</p><p>However, I have a few coins, which I have purchased, which have desert patinas. Usually, it's because I really like the coin, and I haven't found a nice non-desert example.</p><p>I have a hard time distinguishing an authentic desert patina, from a real desert patina.</p><p>If I have a coin, which has a desert patina, and if the coin looks good, and if I can see the devices pretty well, then I usually leave the coin alone.</p><p>I've had 2 instances, in which I purchased coins, which had desert patinas, which partially obscured the devices. I purchased the 2 coins, because I thought, that maybe I could remove the dirt, which was on the devices, or maybe also the fields. However, when I tried, it didn't go well.</p><p>This 1st example, didn't go well at all. If I remember correctly, I think I tried to remove the dirt on both the devices and fields. I used a razor and microscope. However, the underlying green patina came off in some areas, exposing a still-deeper blue or black patina, which was underneath the green patina, and some areas of naked shiny bronze. It didn't look good. Here is the "before" seller photo. This is a Claudius I AE As :</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1423528[/ATTACH]</p><p>The 2nd example, hasn't gone well, so far. I tried to remove just the dirt covering the Emperor's mouth, using a razor and microscope, but the dirt flaked off part of the field, and now there is a green area on the field in front of the Emperor's mouth, the same green color as the devices. However, if I have time, I may try to remove all of the dirt on the fields and devices of the obverse, and then it may look pretty good, in the end. These are the "before" seller photos. This is a Theodosius I Half Centenionalis Sear 20563, I think :</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1423529[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="sand, post: 8157415, member: 118540"][USER=105282]@Harry G[/USER] My personal preference, for your particular coin, is that, I prefer the original desert patina, versus the final result. However, I think it was an interesting experiment, to see if you could remove the sand/dirt. If, somehow, you had been able to remove the sand/dirt, and if the end result had been a coin with a uniform, dark green patina, then that would have been better, than the desert patina, in my opinion. I can't tell for sure, but it seems like you removed some of the green patina. For example, on the Emperor's cheekbone and nose, and on the lower part of the Emperor's forehead. On the other hand, maybe the green patina was fake. I'm not very good at removing desert patina. In the few instances, in which I've tried to remove parts of the desert patina, using a razor and a microscope, I usually try to remove the brown dirt, and leave the green areas alone, and leave the underlying green patina alone. Sometimes, I've attempted to remove some of the dirt, which was on the devices, and leave the dirt on the fields alone, if the dirt on the fields is nice and even. However, so far, I have not had good results, usually. Like [USER=123797]@corvusconstantius[/USER] I usually try to avoid coins with desert patinas, because I worry that the desert patina is artificial, and I worry that someone was trying to hide major flaws, or tooling, or signs of fake casting. When I see a desert patina, I also wonder, if the underlying green patina is also fake. However, I have a few coins, which I have purchased, which have desert patinas. Usually, it's because I really like the coin, and I haven't found a nice non-desert example. I have a hard time distinguishing an authentic desert patina, from a real desert patina. If I have a coin, which has a desert patina, and if the coin looks good, and if I can see the devices pretty well, then I usually leave the coin alone. I've had 2 instances, in which I purchased coins, which had desert patinas, which partially obscured the devices. I purchased the 2 coins, because I thought, that maybe I could remove the dirt, which was on the devices, or maybe also the fields. However, when I tried, it didn't go well. This 1st example, didn't go well at all. If I remember correctly, I think I tried to remove the dirt on both the devices and fields. I used a razor and microscope. However, the underlying green patina came off in some areas, exposing a still-deeper blue or black patina, which was underneath the green patina, and some areas of naked shiny bronze. It didn't look good. Here is the "before" seller photo. This is a Claudius I AE As : [ATTACH=full]1423528[/ATTACH] The 2nd example, hasn't gone well, so far. I tried to remove just the dirt covering the Emperor's mouth, using a razor and microscope, but the dirt flaked off part of the field, and now there is a green area on the field in front of the Emperor's mouth, the same green color as the devices. However, if I have time, I may try to remove all of the dirt on the fields and devices of the obverse, and then it may look pretty good, in the end. These are the "before" seller photos. This is a Theodosius I Half Centenionalis Sear 20563, I think : [ATTACH=full]1423529[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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