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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 8086145, member: 85693"]Happy to see this thread kept alive. Earlier this year I got a Valerian antoninianus that has be a little puzzled; RIC 227 VIRTVS, which OCRE says is from Viminacium, </p><p><br /></p><p>Wildwinds also says Viminacium. However, the Wildwinds plate coin is listed on Vcoins, where the seller says it is from Antioch:</p><p><a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/romanorum/138/product/valerian_ad_253260_antoninianus_398g__antioch_virtvs_avgg_very_scarce/561615/Default.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/romanorum/138/product/valerian_ad_253260_antoninianus_398g__antioch_virtvs_avgg_very_scarce/561615/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/romanorum/138/product/valerian_ad_253260_antoninianus_398g__antioch_virtvs_avgg_very_scarce/561615/Default.aspx</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1404856[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>Valerian I Antoninianus</b></p><p><b>(256 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Viminacium Mint (Antioch?)</b></p><p>IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS PF AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right /</p><p>VIRTVS AVGG, soldier standing left, right hand resting on shield, left hand holding spear.</p><p>RIC 227; Göbl 1584b.</p><p>(2.93 grams / 20 mm)</p><p>eBay Sept. 2021</p><p><b>Attribution Notes:</b></p><p>OCRE and Wildwinds notes this as draped only, but this example is cuirassed as well; Wildwinds photo clearly shows cuirass. </p><p>This appears to be scarce; I found only a couple examples; OCRE only has one. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here's another one I had trouble with - the draped/cuirassed descriptions were all over the place: </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1404858[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Valerian I Antoninianus</b></p><p><b>(254-255 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Viminacium or Antioch Mint</b></p><p>IMP [C P LIC] VALERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right /</p><p>[AE]TERNITATI AVG[G], Saturn veiled, draped, standing right, holding scythe</p><p>RIC 210; Göbl 1559a.</p><p>(3.63 grams / 21 mm)</p><p>eBay Mar. 2021 </p><p><b>Attribution Notes:</b></p><p>RIC 210: Saturn holding scythe; bust draped only, but this one is cuirassed, as are others online.</p><p>RIC: Viminacium Mint;</p><p>Göbl: Antioch Mint</p><p>RIC 67 (Rome): Saturn holding sceptre; obverse bust is cuirassed I could find no correctly-described examples. </p><p><br /></p><p>A second Saturn type antoninianus of Valerian showed up in a lot a couple months later; it is pretty rough, but maybe this one is draped only, no cuirass?:</p><p> </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1404859[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's another Viminacium/Antioch ant. for Valerian:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]1404860[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b>Valerian I Antoninianus</b></p><p><b>n.d. (c. 254-255 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Viminacium or Antioch Mint</b></p><p>IMP C P L[IC VAL]ERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / PACATORI ORBIS, Jupiter seated left holding patera and scepter, eagle at feet. </p><p>RIC 218; Göbl 1562a.</p><p>(3.45 grams / 21 x 19 mm)</p><p>eBay Dec. 2020 </p><p><br /></p><p>And another - like the one [USER=84905]@Tejas[/USER] shows above, Pietas leaning on a column (usually Securitas is shown in this insouciant pose, but the legends say PIETATI). This is one of my favorite Valerian portraits; he is gazing heavenward like Constantine: </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1404861[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Valerian I Antoninianus</b></p><p><b>(c. 254-255 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Viminacium or Antioch mint</b></p><p>IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped bust right / PIETATI AVGG, Pietas standing left, holding sceptre leaning on column.</p><p>RIC 219A Viminacium;</p><p>Goebl 1563a Ant.; Sear 9956.</p><p>(3.25 grams / 20 mm)</p><p>eBay May 2018[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 8086145, member: 85693"]Happy to see this thread kept alive. Earlier this year I got a Valerian antoninianus that has be a little puzzled; RIC 227 VIRTVS, which OCRE says is from Viminacium, Wildwinds also says Viminacium. However, the Wildwinds plate coin is listed on Vcoins, where the seller says it is from Antioch: [URL]https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/romanorum/138/product/valerian_ad_253260_antoninianus_398g__antioch_virtvs_avgg_very_scarce/561615/Default.aspx[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1404856[/ATTACH] [B]Valerian I Antoninianus (256 A.D.) Viminacium Mint (Antioch?)[/B] IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS PF AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / VIRTVS AVGG, soldier standing left, right hand resting on shield, left hand holding spear. RIC 227; Göbl 1584b. (2.93 grams / 20 mm) eBay Sept. 2021 [B]Attribution Notes:[/B] OCRE and Wildwinds notes this as draped only, but this example is cuirassed as well; Wildwinds photo clearly shows cuirass. This appears to be scarce; I found only a couple examples; OCRE only has one. Here's another one I had trouble with - the draped/cuirassed descriptions were all over the place: [ATTACH=full]1404858[/ATTACH] [B]Valerian I Antoninianus (254-255 A.D.) Viminacium or Antioch Mint[/B] IMP [C P LIC] VALERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / [AE]TERNITATI AVG[G], Saturn veiled, draped, standing right, holding scythe RIC 210; Göbl 1559a. (3.63 grams / 21 mm) eBay Mar. 2021 [B]Attribution Notes:[/B] RIC 210: Saturn holding scythe; bust draped only, but this one is cuirassed, as are others online. RIC: Viminacium Mint; Göbl: Antioch Mint RIC 67 (Rome): Saturn holding sceptre; obverse bust is cuirassed I could find no correctly-described examples. A second Saturn type antoninianus of Valerian showed up in a lot a couple months later; it is pretty rough, but maybe this one is draped only, no cuirass?: [ATTACH=full]1404859[/ATTACH] Here's another Viminacium/Antioch ant. for Valerian: [B][ATTACH=full]1404860[/ATTACH] Valerian I Antoninianus n.d. (c. 254-255 A.D.) Viminacium or Antioch Mint[/B] IMP C P L[IC VAL]ERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / PACATORI ORBIS, Jupiter seated left holding patera and scepter, eagle at feet. RIC 218; Göbl 1562a. (3.45 grams / 21 x 19 mm) eBay Dec. 2020 And another - like the one [USER=84905]@Tejas[/USER] shows above, Pietas leaning on a column (usually Securitas is shown in this insouciant pose, but the legends say PIETATI). This is one of my favorite Valerian portraits; he is gazing heavenward like Constantine: [ATTACH=full]1404861[/ATTACH] [B]Valerian I Antoninianus (c. 254-255 A.D.) Viminacium or Antioch mint[/B] IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped bust right / PIETATI AVGG, Pietas standing left, holding sceptre leaning on column. RIC 219A Viminacium; Goebl 1563a Ant.; Sear 9956. (3.25 grams / 20 mm) eBay May 2018[/QUOTE]
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