Same or different - two ancient Roman coins

cant get the speadsheets to ever work on my comp lol

 

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Really? I find the spreadsheets infinitely easier to work with. RIC is not organized in a way that's conducive to quick and easy attribution, especially some of the later volumes.

 

I'll try to open them at school when I get some free time.

 

Good discussion again btw. I have been thinking about this topic more, and I think many people would disagree with either of us. Its a very slippery slope, the difference between Type and Variety, with no absolute standard. If you look at US Bust halves by Overton numbers, within the same date they are simply varieties, easy enough. If you look at Spearing Horsemen versus Phoenix Fel Temp issues, they are different types, easy enough. When does a Variety constitute a different Type? That is the question. To some, it may be when the depiction is substantively different in a number of points, like you say. To others, it may be when the INTENDED depiction is substantively different than others, like me. I think you could take most Roman reverses, like campgates, etc, that were minted in many mints and find substantive differences on reverses. Are these new Types, or just Varieties?

We will probably disagree, which is fine since there is no absolute answer. It depends on the persons definition really. How does everyone else feel? I am curious. No right or wrong, just what everyone else's definition might be.

Of course, this discussion has nothing to do with how interesting they are. I think I will bid heavier this fall and get some more of these types to study. I am very curious now, or at least more interested in these coins than I used to be.