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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7571739, member: 105098"]Might want to get that tapcon'ed from the inside into the floor. 250 pounds is manageable for 2 people, easier than you'd think actually. one run of the mill burglar, will have a tough time with it, a couple guys or one strong dude and the safe is gone in no time at all. </p><p><br /></p><p>I really like securing them to the slab from the inside of the safe so even if they get to it, it's not going anywhere unless the figure out how to release the fasteners from the inside or break the slab enough to release the studs. </p><p><br /></p><p> A different way would be to work in a large flat item like a steel plate to lay flat under the safe that you can get through the doorways sideways to place, then weld the safe to it, they can't get it up because they will be standing on the plate, even if they do figure out how to get it up, they won't get it through the doorways, and if they got the time I guess they'd have to sit there and break the welds to go further. that's for floors that aren't all that rock solid let's say.</p><p><br /></p><p>You could fix the safe from the back to the studs in the wall, but I'm not a fan of that unless you are sure it's not load bearing if someone went at it and tore up the wall. </p><p><br /></p><p>My opinion, consider the value of the items you will keep in it and either get a heavier safe, or figure out a way to make it a fixed safe in the building that would take a long time to remove it' if it's light. Ideally, you'd want it to be pushing 500 pounds or more on it. </p><p>an "average" adult man weighing 198 pounds with intermediate lifting experience can bench press about 135 pounds, deadlift 335 pounds, and squat 285 pounds. so 500 pounds limits it to a team of two or more. but at 250 pounds it will be difficult of course, but you'd be surprised what one person could do with it with some determination, and it would be gone with 2 people no doubt in my mind.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 7571739, member: 105098"]Might want to get that tapcon'ed from the inside into the floor. 250 pounds is manageable for 2 people, easier than you'd think actually. one run of the mill burglar, will have a tough time with it, a couple guys or one strong dude and the safe is gone in no time at all. I really like securing them to the slab from the inside of the safe so even if they get to it, it's not going anywhere unless the figure out how to release the fasteners from the inside or break the slab enough to release the studs. A different way would be to work in a large flat item like a steel plate to lay flat under the safe that you can get through the doorways sideways to place, then weld the safe to it, they can't get it up because they will be standing on the plate, even if they do figure out how to get it up, they won't get it through the doorways, and if they got the time I guess they'd have to sit there and break the welds to go further. that's for floors that aren't all that rock solid let's say. You could fix the safe from the back to the studs in the wall, but I'm not a fan of that unless you are sure it's not load bearing if someone went at it and tore up the wall. My opinion, consider the value of the items you will keep in it and either get a heavier safe, or figure out a way to make it a fixed safe in the building that would take a long time to remove it' if it's light. Ideally, you'd want it to be pushing 500 pounds or more on it. an "average" adult man weighing 198 pounds with intermediate lifting experience can bench press about 135 pounds, deadlift 335 pounds, and squat 285 pounds. so 500 pounds limits it to a team of two or more. but at 250 pounds it will be difficult of course, but you'd be surprised what one person could do with it with some determination, and it would be gone with 2 people no doubt in my mind.[/QUOTE]
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