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<p>[QUOTE="Niel, post: 365742, member: 13422"]While guns and dogs have their places in our lives...and may or may not help protect collections from burglary, neither will do a thing to protect treasures from a fire. </p><p><br /></p><p>And for those who are thinking that should a fire break out...g-d forbid in their homes, they'd grab the bust halves on their way out the door......Really??? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> IMHO I'd more likely be trying to find the cats, but that's me. The awful reality is that most people who escape major home fires do so with the clothes (or none) on their back.</p><p><br /></p><p>Our collections are an important part of our lives....otherwise I doubt we'd be here <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> But I suspect the living loved ones we share our lives with are far far more important.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've seen a few house fires recently and they can escalate very very quickly. AND, even the best fire depts take time to get a blazer under control.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you choose to keep some or all of your collection at home, a fire safe with a UL (Underwriters Laboratory) fire rating sticker is the ONLY thing that can begin to protect your coins. The ratings are in terms of the internal temperature of the safe over set periods of time when subjected to specific external heat. The most common seen fire sticker seen on safes at the big box stores is 30 minutes. IMHO, that isn't nearly robust enough. There are also 1 hr and 2 hr ratings. As you'd expect, the higher the rating, the more expensive the safe is going to be. You have to weigh for yourself the cost of the unit over time versus the value of the contents to see which makes more sense.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a link describing the UL ratings for fire resistance and burglary resistance.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.klsecurity.com/ul_fire_rating.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.klsecurity.com/ul_fire_rating.htm" rel="nofollow">www.klsecurity.com/ul_fire_rating.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here're are a couple of links to reputable safe manufacturers. I'm sure there are others, but these two (besides being made in the good old USA) follow and rate their safes in accordance with UL.</p><p><br /></p><p>Gardall Company <a href="http://www.gardall.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.gardall.com" rel="nofollow">www.gardall.com</a></p><p>American Security Co <a href="http://www.amsecusa.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.amsecusa.com" rel="nofollow">www.amsecusa.com</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Both sites have lists of dealers for each. If you go for one of the larger safes, a locksmith is going to be invaluable considering the weight of some them can exceed 1000lbs.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Niel, post: 365742, member: 13422"]While guns and dogs have their places in our lives...and may or may not help protect collections from burglary, neither will do a thing to protect treasures from a fire. And for those who are thinking that should a fire break out...g-d forbid in their homes, they'd grab the bust halves on their way out the door......Really??? :eek: IMHO I'd more likely be trying to find the cats, but that's me. The awful reality is that most people who escape major home fires do so with the clothes (or none) on their back. Our collections are an important part of our lives....otherwise I doubt we'd be here :) But I suspect the living loved ones we share our lives with are far far more important. I've seen a few house fires recently and they can escalate very very quickly. AND, even the best fire depts take time to get a blazer under control. If you choose to keep some or all of your collection at home, a fire safe with a UL (Underwriters Laboratory) fire rating sticker is the ONLY thing that can begin to protect your coins. The ratings are in terms of the internal temperature of the safe over set periods of time when subjected to specific external heat. The most common seen fire sticker seen on safes at the big box stores is 30 minutes. IMHO, that isn't nearly robust enough. There are also 1 hr and 2 hr ratings. As you'd expect, the higher the rating, the more expensive the safe is going to be. You have to weigh for yourself the cost of the unit over time versus the value of the contents to see which makes more sense. Here's a link describing the UL ratings for fire resistance and burglary resistance. [url]www.klsecurity.com/ul_fire_rating.htm[/url] Here're are a couple of links to reputable safe manufacturers. I'm sure there are others, but these two (besides being made in the good old USA) follow and rate their safes in accordance with UL. Gardall Company [url]www.gardall.com[/url] American Security Co [url]www.amsecusa.com[/url] Both sites have lists of dealers for each. If you go for one of the larger safes, a locksmith is going to be invaluable considering the weight of some them can exceed 1000lbs. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
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