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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Smitty, post: 1354553, member: 35044&quot;]One thing I found in my research is that most gun safes have thin walls (12 gauge) that can be <a href="http://www.sturdysafe.com/gaugethicknesswar.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.sturdysafe.com/gaugethicknesswar.htm" rel="nofollow">penetrated with a fire axe in under one minute</a>, or a sledgehammer, and are not very fire-resistant. That&#039;s why I&#039;ve settled on a B-rated safe with a fire-resistant chest inside.</p><p><br /></p><p>The cheapest ones I know of are the Amsec M1414, Hayman CV-14 or Hollon B1414 (but the typical fire chest probably won&#039;t fit inside these).</p><p><br /></p><p>If you want a &quot;fire-resistant&quot; B-rated safe, you&#039;re going to go into the $1000 area and significantly increase the weight, which could be a good or bad thing depending upon your situation.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you want a safe (TL-15) that&#039;s dang near impossible to break into you&#039;re talking a minimum of $2,500 and 750 pounds. Then you get into the &quot;stupid&quot; heavy and expensive TL-30&#039;s.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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