Sacagawea Dollar

1979 & 1981 Proof Sets

Sorry for the mistake, but I meant to write 1979 and 1981 Type 1 and Type 2 United States Proof Sets. The filled "S" and the clear "S" mint marks.

Jim

 

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Rugen,

There are no mint sets for 1982 or 1983. Same with 1950. I would not agree that Mr. Chambers does not know his numismatics. He does mislead people. He has excellent showmanship. Yes he also caters to the uninformed. But as I stated earlier, this is our fault. The public is uninformed because we keep them that way. Our hobby is our secret. All of us should do our part to inform those around us about our wonderful hobby. Spend a few minutes with the teller at the bank talking coins. Talk to your childrens or grandchildrens class at school. Give coins as tips whenever possible. Explain the history of these wonderful works of art that we carry in our pocket. If each dealer and collector would share one thought with one person, it would make such a difference. Instead, we allow Mr. Chambers to do this for us. He is only working the crowd that we choose not to. We can choose to light the flame of discovery to someone else, or keep our little secret. Knowledge is only useful if shared. You never know when your knowledge will inspire the next big name in numismatics. So take a few wheat cents with you the next time you are going to your favorite restaurant. Leave one in the give a penny take a penny jar. Explain to someone why you give your TWO CENTS. Show someone a Half Cent, a Three Cent Nickel, or a Half Dime. Don't let the next person that Mr. Chambers brings into the hobby be someone you know.

 

RE:1982 and 1983 Mint Sets. These were issued only at the P&D Mints for these two years. They are available for sale on several auction sites.

Jim

 

There are no official mint sets minted in 1982 or 1983.
Souvenir Sets.
Uncirculated sets were packaged and sold at the Philadelphia and Denver mint stores in place of official mint sets. These sets include a bronze mint medal to distinguish the difference.

 

I didn't say that a ripped off buyer isn't responsible. I said the buyer isn't the one who committed the fraud. By your reasoning, a crooked politician is blameless because voters fell for his lies during a campaign. If victim and perpetrator bear equal responsibility then why are there criminal laws against fraud?

People most certainly can take advantage of you when you don't let them do so. They can lie to you and you don't know they're lying. In that case you didn't "let" the liar do anything. The liar committed the offense of lying, not the person who he managed to gull into believing him.

Thanks for reiterating your point, but your saying it more than once doesn't make it true.

 

In addition to the Souvenir sets, sold at the Mints' stores, there were aftermarket mint sets made for 1982 P&D and 1983 P&D. These were made by non-governmental firms, and were packaged and sold very similarly to official Mint Sets.

 

cmbdii, I think that you are missing the point here. On an earlier thread, our moderator and I were discussing how collectors and dealers have a responsibility. The person ripped off is not at fault, in and of hisself. I suggested that if we were to make our friends aware of such things, they would not get ripped off. Therefore, it is the responsibility of each dealer and collector to inform the people that they know.

 

I agree. We should always strive to EDUCATE. I would much prefer buying from and selling to collectors that know what they are doing. One of the hardest things about this business is seeing someone with TV coins. How do you tell someone that they've been hosed? It's not easy to sugarcoat it. And if I'm not careful in how I speak to them I could come out looking like the bad guy! Not good. The best thing I can do is to be supportive of the hobby and advise them to join our local coin club, attend the many shows in our area, seek out ALL the local dealers and look at a LOT of coins.
The people who buy coins on TV are not seasoned collectors. They may THINK they're collectors, but we know they're not. And hopefully they'll realize sooner rather than later that Television coin sellers are not the way to buy coins. The TV customers sometimes become good collectors...I mean, we all start somewhere, right? Just remember...the TV shows don't target collectors...they target people who don't know the true value of coins.