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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2621730, member: 19463&quot;]I think yours is a kopeck Ivan IV as Tsar.&nbsp; Ivan&#039;s more common coins are smaller denga as Grand Duke and have different legends.&nbsp; Centering makes these hard to compare since the dies were twice the size of the flans and different ones show different parts of the whole. Mine is different but both show some letters in common.&nbsp; Kopecks show the horseman with a spear while denga (second below is an Ivan IV as Grand Duke) shows a sword. When you buy these you have to decide what part of the design is important to you. The first below has a nice horse head and clear crown; the second was for sword and legends.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]575366[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]575365[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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