RR denarius #2 and mythological characters

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  1. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Good day ladies and gentlemen.
    I promised myself I will stop new addi(c)tions as usually I buy around 10 coins each month. So I bought 15 from a recent auction :|

    Now speaking seriously, I am content with the coins I got. All new types for me, conditions are decent and prices were, for most of them, below my most optimistic expectations.

    Here is one of them I like, my 2nd RR denarius (officialy the 3rd as I also have a L. Procilius, but in a very poor condition):
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    Q. Titius, Rome, 90 BC. AR Denarius.
    Head of young Bacchus right (Liber?!) , wearing ivy wreath.
    Rev: Pegasus springing right Q·TITI
    Crawford 341/2; RBW 1275; RSC Titia 2.
    3.51 gr. 19 mm

    We know that Pegasus image was heavily used in Greek coinage, such as Corinth
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/corinth-hemidrachm-proper-attribution.380311/

    Finding it on a RR is not unusual but nevertheless interesting.

    Even if the coin is rough (could it be a fourree, even if it doesn't look like one for me? or even worse, a modern fake? I am not familiar with RR in general) I like the details and especially the reverse.

    Please post your Q. Titius coins; coins with Pegasus - either RR, Greek, from Carthagina or anywhere else; coins that you managed to win below your optimistic expectations; coins with mythological characters ... or anything else you feel relevant.
     
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  3. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Looks like a fourree to me , but you have it in hand. nice coin congrats.

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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Q TITIUS.jpg
    Q TITIUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS TITIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Mutinus Titinus (Priapus) right, wearing winged diadem
    REVERSE: The Pegasus springing right, Q TITI on base
    Struck at Rome 90 BC
    3.8g, 18mm
    Cr341/1, Syd 691; Titia 1
     
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  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Corinth continued to use Pegasus as a motif, even into the Roman imperial period.

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    Caligula, AD 37-41.
    Roman provincial Æ 20 mm, 6.74 g.
    Peloponnese, Corinthia, Corinth, Ae. P. Vipsanius Agrippa and M. Bellius Proculus, duoviri, AD 37-38.
    Obv: C CAESAR AVGVSTV, bare head right.
    Rev: M BELLIO PROCVLO IIVIR / COR, Pegasus flying right.
    Refs: RPC I 1173; Amandry (1988) XVII; BCD Corinth 405-6.
     
  6. Ryro

    Ryro The last of the Diadochi Supporter

    Fun coin from a crazy time for the republic!
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  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Nice find, @ambr0zie - in my humble opinion, it doesn't look fourree to me, just a bit porous. Just a guess, though.

    Here's mine - I am very fond of it, but unfortunately the reverse legend-tablet thing is off-flan. Bacchus-Liber looks as if he's been hitting the ol' wineskins a bit too much, but I guess that's his job:

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    Roman Republic Denarius
    Q. Titius
    (90 B.C.) - Rome Mint

    Head of young Bacchus or Liber right, wreathed with ivy / Pegasus rearing right [on tablet inscribed Q. TITI].
    Crawford 341/2; Titia 2; Syd. 692.
    (3.81 grams / 17 mm)
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Cool coins, @ambr0zie !

    PEGASUS

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    Roman Republic
    AE Double Litra
    235 BCE
    19.5mm 6.54g
    Rome mint
    Hercules r club -
    Pegasus r club ROMA
    Cr 27-3 HN Italy 316 S 591


    PEGASOS

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    PONTOS Amisos
    85-65 BCE
    Æ24 12.2g
    Mithradates VI as Perseus r Phrygian helmet
    Pegasos grazing l
    Malloy 33b HGC 7 239
     
  9. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Nice coins all. @Marsyas Mike, your coin, with the tablet off the flan, could easily be mistaken for a Greek coin. That would have been my guess a few months ago without knowing this RR coin.
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    CARTHAGE PEGASOS

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    Carthage Siculo
    330-300 BCE
    AE 15
    Palm Tree
    Pegasos
    SNG Cop 108


    PEGASUS QUINARIUS

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    Roman Republic
    Q Titius AR Quinarius 90 BCE PEGASUS Sear 240
     
  11. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I'm probably jinxing myself, but this is kind of a weird coincidence - I just won a Pegasus on eBay today; a dupondius of Hadrian. Seller's photos, of course - kind of blotchy but I'm guessing it will look better in hand?

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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I have nothing new to add but repeats of a denarius and a quinarius.
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    Does anyone have the as of this moneyer? The faces tend to look more like Mutinus Titinus than like Janus.
     
  13. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    Yes - there are a few varieties, of which I have two:

    Moneyer: Q. Titius
    Obv.: Laureate head of Janus
    Rev.: Q. TITI - Prow of galley right
    Mint: Rome (90 BC)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 9.83g / 27mm / 6h
    References:
    • Crawford 341/4a
    • Sydenham 694
    Provenances:
    • Ex. LAC 38, lot 183
    • Ex. LAC 50, lot 246
    Acquisition: London Ancient Coins Online Auction LAC Auction 54 #161 7-Sep-2016

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    Moneyer: Q. Titius
    Obv.: Laureate head of Janus
    Rev.: Q. TITI - Prow of galley right; behind, control symbol (palm-branch)
    Mint: Rome (90 BC)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 8.70g / 25mm / 0h
    References:
    • Sydenham 694b
    • Crawford 341/4d
    • BMCRR Rome 2236
    Acquisition: Numismatica Tintinna Online auction Asta 75 #174 29-Sep-2018
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    As a bonus, here's the semis, which is interesting also.

    Moneyer: Q. Titius
    Obv.: S - Laureate head ot Apollo right
    Rev.: Minerva in quadriga right, holding spear in left hand and rein in right hand
    Exergue: Q. TITI
    Mint: Rome (90 BC)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 4.83g / - / 9h
    References:
    • Sydenham 695
    • Crawford 341/5
    Provenances:
    • Ex. Andrew McCabe Collection
    • Ex Bombarda Collection 2010
    • Ex Roberto Russo
    Acquisition: Private purchase 6-Jun-2015
    Notes: Jun 15, 15 - The types of the bronze fractions are copied from the silver coinage of C. Vibius C.f. Pansa, Q. Titius' colleague as moneyer.

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    ATB,
    Aidan.
     
  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    PIGASOS

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    Ionia Klazomenai
    480-400 BCE
    AR Drachm Pentobol
    3.5g 13mm
    Forepart winged boar r
    Gorgoneion incuse sq
    Cf SNG Copenhagen 12 R
     
  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    One of my favorite RR denarii shows Pegasus being ridden by the hero Bellerophon. I've always been intrigued by this type, and have wondered if it's a coincidence that on the obverse is Medusa, the mother of Pegasus.

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC
    AR Denarius. 3.95g, 18mm. Rome mint, 72 BC. Crawford 395/1; Sydenham 790; Cossutia 1. O: Head of Medusa left, winged and entwined with serpents; SABVLA upwards behind. R: Bellerophon riding Pegasus right, hurling spear; control mark X behind, L COSSVTI C F below.
    Ex Eucharius Collection
     
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  16. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Nice Pegasi shown!
    I only have one mythological creature....But it's still my favourite Bronze Greek..
    Ionia, Phokaia, c. 350-300 BC. Æ (15mm, 4.36g, 11h). Phokleon, magistrate.
    Obverse..Head of Hermes facing left wearing a Petasos hat tied at the back.
    Reverse..Forepart of a griffin springing left. ΦΩKAEΩN (PHOKAEON), name of the magistrate below.
    SNG Copenhagen 1039ff (magistrate); BMC 101.
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  17. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    I have three Pegasi:

    Corinth (one of my favorite coins):

    Corinth AR Stater. Circa 375-345 BC. Obv: Pegasos flying left, Q below / Rev: Helmeted head of Athena left. Control-symbols behind head: Retrograde N and Ares standing left holding shield and spear. Pegasi 376 var. [“N” not retrograde] [Calciati, R., Pegasi Vol. I (Mortara, 1990)]; Ravel 1056 [Ravel, O.E., Les "Poulains" de Corinthe, I - II (Basel, 1936; London, 1948)]; BCD Corinth 121 [Numismatik Lanz, Münzen von Korinth: Sammlung B, Auction 105 (Munich, 26 Nov. 2001)]; SNG Copenhagen 121 [Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum, Copenhagen, The Royal Collection of Coins and Medals, Danish National Museum, Part 15, Corinth (Copenhagen 1944)]. 21mm, 8.46 g., 6h. Ex. Roma Numismatics Ltd. Auction IX, 22 March 2015, Lot 168.

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    Roman Republic:

    Roman Republic, Q. Titius, AR Denarius, Rome 90 BCE. Obv. Head of Mutinus Titius[?] [ = Priapus] right with beard & winged diadem / Rev. Pegasus springing right, “Q TITI” on tablet below. RSC I Titia 1, Crawford 341/1, Sear RCV I 238, BMCRR Rome 2220. 18.5 mm., 3.8 g.

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    Roman Empire:

    Gallienus, Billon Antoninianus, 267-268 AD, Rome Mint (1st Officina). Obv. Radiate head right, GALLIENVS AVG /Rev. Pegasus springing right, about to take flight. SOLI CONS AVG; A offset to right in exergue. RIC V-1 283 (p. 155), RSC IV 979, Sear RCV III 10362, Wolkow 26a1[Cédric Wolkow, Catalogue des monnaies romaines - Gallien - L'émission dite "Du Bestiaire" - atelier de Rome (BNumis, édition 2019)], Göbl MIR [Moneta Imperii Romani] Band 36, No. 712b. 21 mm., 3.12 g, 11 h.

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