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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4861339, member: 19463"]For Vespasian, the reverse needs to read TR POT X COS VIIII and I do see a trace of the X that I missed before. The coin does not look cast to me but I have seen similar bubbles as shown on my Trajan below. The bubble behind Trajan's head collapsed with a little pressure. I once thought the coin might be fourree but later believed it might have had a bit of copper alloy not fully mixed in before the flan was cast. The majority of struck coins were struck on cast flans and could have air or alloy inclusions. To know what was going on with my coin, I could have cut it in half and observed the cross section. My curiosity was not that strong. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1174056[/ATTACH]</p><p>I am sorry for seeming unfriendly but this list has regular visits by people who have interest in fooling with people and making them look bad. Your post set off two red flags with the lack of mention of Vespasian and 'pontificate'. If you really want a worthwhile opinion on the coin, you could show it to a top end expert like the ones who work for NGC or Harlan Berk (for example) but the expenses of doing that would exceed the value of the coin. You could show it to a dozen dealers of lesser abilities and get several different opinions of varying degrees of value. If the coin were mine, I would not saw it in half but prefer to live in ignorance. We each will have our opinions and mine tend to accept it as a real coin that has suffered greatly. I do not know if The Pope will expertise coins but, if he does, we need to remember that he only claims infallibility in matters of 'religion and morals'. People who consider themselves infallible in matters of numismatics tend not to be even close. </p><p><br /></p><p>I would love to see what William Campbell would have said on the matter. I love his book (1933) that is now free online and demonstrates what can be learned from sawing coins in half.</p><p><a href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000104992965&view=1up&seq=46" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000104992965&view=1up&seq=46" rel="nofollow">https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000104992965&view=1up&seq=46</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4861339, member: 19463"]For Vespasian, the reverse needs to read TR POT X COS VIIII and I do see a trace of the X that I missed before. The coin does not look cast to me but I have seen similar bubbles as shown on my Trajan below. The bubble behind Trajan's head collapsed with a little pressure. I once thought the coin might be fourree but later believed it might have had a bit of copper alloy not fully mixed in before the flan was cast. The majority of struck coins were struck on cast flans and could have air or alloy inclusions. To know what was going on with my coin, I could have cut it in half and observed the cross section. My curiosity was not that strong. [ATTACH=full]1174056[/ATTACH] I am sorry for seeming unfriendly but this list has regular visits by people who have interest in fooling with people and making them look bad. Your post set off two red flags with the lack of mention of Vespasian and 'pontificate'. If you really want a worthwhile opinion on the coin, you could show it to a top end expert like the ones who work for NGC or Harlan Berk (for example) but the expenses of doing that would exceed the value of the coin. You could show it to a dozen dealers of lesser abilities and get several different opinions of varying degrees of value. If the coin were mine, I would not saw it in half but prefer to live in ignorance. We each will have our opinions and mine tend to accept it as a real coin that has suffered greatly. I do not know if The Pope will expertise coins but, if he does, we need to remember that he only claims infallibility in matters of 'religion and morals'. People who consider themselves infallible in matters of numismatics tend not to be even close. I would love to see what William Campbell would have said on the matter. I love his book (1933) that is now free online and demonstrates what can be learned from sawing coins in half. [URL]https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000104992965&view=1up&seq=46[/URL][/QUOTE]
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