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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 4843244, member: 24314&quot;]ernstk, posted: &quot;Anyone can claim what you claim without proof it means just words at face value lol</p><p><br /></p><p>How true!&nbsp;&nbsp; Fortunately, I have no reason to prove anything to you or anyone else.&nbsp; You see, I&#039;m very comfortable in my own skin and you&#039;ll never know what&#039;s true or BS because it is above your pay grade. </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Unfortunately, your lack of simple English comprehension has become bothersome <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> and has caused you to misquote me again.&nbsp; The state-of-the-art coins passing the TPGS&#039;s on occasion have micro defects. If these were known and corrected, it would make authenticating the best fakes very difficult.&nbsp;&nbsp; As I posted, I don&#039;t care if a CNC die or a mold was used to make a fake.&nbsp; Basic PUBLISHED technics of counterfeit detection which apparently you <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> have not discovered cover both methods of manufacture.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>ernstk, posted:&nbsp; &quot;CNC machine produce high quality die that matches to the bit of the original die so it basically creates an identical die that there would be no way to detect.[<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <span style="color: #006633">if you say so</span>].&nbsp; Based on what I heard some very high end expensive coins sold in many famous big auction names are produced by CNC machines and their owners would never know what they got is indeed fake. [<span style="color: #006600">True.&nbsp; However, you know about these coins because they were eventually detected.] <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span>&nbsp; Actually the CNC made fakes is impossible to detect [<span style="color: #006633">In your opinion. see my previous comment]</span>.and no one including this Insider guy can detect a CNC made fake. its virtually and logically impossible. its same as I tell you that BMW makes some car produced in Mexico and some in Germany but they look identical there is no way for someone to distinguish these. The only key is patina but when a coin is cleaned that crucial factor is gone so that is why I never touch a cleaned coin since the chance of it being a CNC fake is huge.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>ernstk, posted: </p><p>1. there was no CNC 50 years ago.</p><p>2. the fact that you don&#039;t care how a coin is produced shows well that your opinion on a coin worth as much as a word of ....[<span style="color: #006600">ernstk</span> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />]&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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