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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 4842912, member: 96900"]<b>ernstk</b></p><p><b>"CNC machine produce high quality die that matches to the bit of the original die so it basically creates an identical die that there would be no way to detect."</b></p><p><br /></p><p>That is stupid nonsense, the DETAILS on STRUCK COINS ARE DIFFERING WITH THE DETAILS IN THE ORIGINAL DIES !</p><p>Struck coins are missing details from the original dies (due to bad centering and not perfect strike) which were in the original dies.</p><p>And struck coins have NEW details (individual characteristics from striking, circulation and environment) which were not in the dies and which will be transferred into the transfer dies and on transfer die fakes, this details should not be found identical on coins from the same dies, for example identical scratches.</p><p><br /></p><p>So there will be always some details missing in the transfer dies, that were in the original dies and some new details (individual characteristics from striking, circulation and environment) which should not be there.</p><p><br /></p><p>To reconstruct the details, which were in the original dies is extremely difficult to impossible (because forgers are humans and will make mistakes).</p><p><br /></p><p>Spotting transfer die fakes is very easy, it can only be complicated to prove it if you can not find the authentic mother but even then it can be possible prove that they are without a doubt fake.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 4842912, member: 96900"][B]ernstk "CNC machine produce high quality die that matches to the bit of the original die so it basically creates an identical die that there would be no way to detect."[/B] That is stupid nonsense, the DETAILS on STRUCK COINS ARE DIFFERING WITH THE DETAILS IN THE ORIGINAL DIES ! Struck coins are missing details from the original dies (due to bad centering and not perfect strike) which were in the original dies. And struck coins have NEW details (individual characteristics from striking, circulation and environment) which were not in the dies and which will be transferred into the transfer dies and on transfer die fakes, this details should not be found identical on coins from the same dies, for example identical scratches. So there will be always some details missing in the transfer dies, that were in the original dies and some new details (individual characteristics from striking, circulation and environment) which should not be there. To reconstruct the details, which were in the original dies is extremely difficult to impossible (because forgers are humans and will make mistakes). Spotting transfer die fakes is very easy, it can only be complicated to prove it if you can not find the authentic mother but even then it can be possible prove that they are without a doubt fake.[/QUOTE]
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