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<p>[QUOTE="Quant.Geek, post: 2950747, member: 74799"][USER=77077]@Theodosius[/USER]: That is a very cool (and a bit freaky) overstrike! What are the chances for the moneyer to rotate it 180° for that to happen. These things come in and it just gets hammered without much thought...</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER]: Another cool overstrike, especially with the scarce Leonitus host coin!</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER]: I still love that Gordian III Anonymous follis. You should probably add me to the list of wanters <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here are some of my favorite overstrikes:</p><p><br /></p><p>Heraclius & Heraclius Constantine overstruck on Phocas & Leontia . 610-641 / 602-610. Æ follis (26.89 mm, 8.78 g, 6 h). Host coin, Theopolis (Antioch) mint, 602-610 / after 610. overstrike, Thessalonica mint. Overstrike: fragmentary, d N hЄRA[CLIЧS PP AVG] Host coin, also fragmentary, [O N FOCA] NЄ PЄ [AV] , Overstrike: Heraclius (on left, and Heraclius constantine, barely visible on right) standing facing, each holding globus cruciger, cross between their heads Host coin: Phocas on left and Leontia standing facing; Emperor holds globus cruciger, Empress holds cruciform scepter; cross between their heads / Overstrike, large M between A / N / N / O and date (not struck-up), cross above, B below, ΘЄC in exergueHost coin, large m between [A / N /] N / O and date (unclear) cross above, ThЄЧP' in exergue. Host coin, Cf. SBCV 671; Overstrike, Cf. SBCV 824. VF for type, dark green patina on devices, lighter encrustation on fields - overstrike at ~ 90º ccw.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/agora/69/image00327.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't have the host coins readily available currently, so stock pictures will have to do for this particular coin:</p><p><br /></p><p>Sear 671:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://labarum.info/lbr/img/sb0671.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Sear 824:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://labarum.info/lbr/img/lbr08240.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b> Byzantine Empire: Æ Anonymous Class A1 Follis (ca. 969-976 CE), Attributed to John I Tzimisces, Constantinople (Sear 1793; DOC A1.6-10) </b></p><p><br /></p><p>Obv: Facing bust of Christ Pantokrator</p><p>Rev: + IҺSЧS/XRISTЧS/ЬASILЄЧ/ЬASILЄ in four lines below</p><p><br /></p><p>Overstruck on a Constantinople mint follis of Constantine VII and Romanus I (SB 1760), itself overstruck on a Constantinople mint follis of Constantine VII and Zoe.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1793%281%29.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the host coins:</p><p><br /></p><p><b> Byzantine Empire: Æ Anonymous Class A1 Follis, Attributed to John I Tzimisces (969-976), Constantinople (Sear 1793) </b></p><p><br /></p><p>Obv: +ЄMMA-NOVHΛ; IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, holding book of gospels, with nimbus</p><p>Rev: +IҺSЧS / XRISTЧS / ЬASILЄЧ / ЬASILЄ in four lines</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1793%282%29.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1793%282%29.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1793(2).jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b> Byzantine Empire: Constantine VII (913-959) AE Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1760; DOC 25) </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p>Obv: <i>RWMAN bASILEVS RWM</i>; Crowned, bearded, facing bust of Romanus, wearing chlamys, holding labarum and cross on globe</p><p>Rev: <i>RWMA - N EN QEW bA - SILEVS RW-MAIWN</i>; Legend in four lines</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1760.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b> Byzantine Empire: Constantine VII - Porphyrogenitus and Zoe (913-959) Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1758) </b></p><p><br /></p><p>Obv: COnStAnt' CE ZOH b.</p><p>Crowned busts of Constantine, wearing loros, and Zoe, draped, holding patriarchal cross between them.</p><p>Rev: +COnS/ tAnTInO/ CE ZOh bA/ SILIS RO/ mEOn.</p><p>Legend in 5 lines.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1758.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Quant.Geek, post: 2950747, member: 74799"][USER=77077]@Theodosius[/USER]: That is a very cool (and a bit freaky) overstrike! What are the chances for the moneyer to rotate it 180° for that to happen. These things come in and it just gets hammered without much thought... [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER]: Another cool overstrike, especially with the scarce Leonitus host coin! [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER]: I still love that Gordian III Anonymous follis. You should probably add me to the list of wanters :D Here are some of my favorite overstrikes: Heraclius & Heraclius Constantine overstruck on Phocas & Leontia . 610-641 / 602-610. Æ follis (26.89 mm, 8.78 g, 6 h). Host coin, Theopolis (Antioch) mint, 602-610 / after 610. overstrike, Thessalonica mint. Overstrike: fragmentary, d N hЄRA[CLIЧS PP AVG] Host coin, also fragmentary, [O N FOCA] NЄ PЄ [AV] , Overstrike: Heraclius (on left, and Heraclius constantine, barely visible on right) standing facing, each holding globus cruciger, cross between their heads Host coin: Phocas on left and Leontia standing facing; Emperor holds globus cruciger, Empress holds cruciform scepter; cross between their heads / Overstrike, large M between A / N / N / O and date (not struck-up), cross above, B below, ΘЄC in exergueHost coin, large m between [A / N /] N / O and date (unclear) cross above, ThЄЧP' in exergue. Host coin, Cf. SBCV 671; Overstrike, Cf. SBCV 824. VF for type, dark green patina on devices, lighter encrustation on fields - overstrike at ~ 90º ccw. [IMG]https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/agora/69/image00327.jpg[/IMG] I don't have the host coins readily available currently, so stock pictures will have to do for this particular coin: Sear 671: [img]http://labarum.info/lbr/img/sb0671.jpg[/img] Sear 824: [img]http://labarum.info/lbr/img/lbr08240.jpg[/img] [B] Byzantine Empire: Æ Anonymous Class A1 Follis (ca. 969-976 CE), Attributed to John I Tzimisces, Constantinople (Sear 1793; DOC A1.6-10) [/B] Obv: Facing bust of Christ Pantokrator Rev: + IҺSЧS/XRISTЧS/ЬASILЄЧ/ЬASILЄ in four lines below Overstruck on a Constantinople mint follis of Constantine VII and Romanus I (SB 1760), itself overstruck on a Constantinople mint follis of Constantine VII and Zoe. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1793%281%29.jpg[/IMG] Here are the host coins: [B] Byzantine Empire: Æ Anonymous Class A1 Follis, Attributed to John I Tzimisces (969-976), Constantinople (Sear 1793) [/B] Obv: +ЄMMA-NOVHΛ; IC-XC to right and left of bust of Christ facing, holding book of gospels, with nimbus Rev: +IҺSЧS / XRISTЧS / ЬASILЄЧ / ЬASILЄ in four lines [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1793%282%29.jpg'][IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1793(2).jpg[/IMG][/URL] [B] Byzantine Empire: Constantine VII (913-959) AE Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1760; DOC 25) [/B] Obv: [I]RWMAN bASILEVS RWM[/I]; Crowned, bearded, facing bust of Romanus, wearing chlamys, holding labarum and cross on globe Rev: [I]RWMA - N EN QEW bA - SILEVS RW-MAIWN[/I]; Legend in four lines [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1760.jpg[/IMG] [B] Byzantine Empire: Constantine VII - Porphyrogenitus and Zoe (913-959) Follis, Constantinople (Sear-1758) [/B] Obv: COnStAnt' CE ZOH b. Crowned busts of Constantine, wearing loros, and Zoe, draped, holding patriarchal cross between them. Rev: +COnS/ tAnTInO/ CE ZOh bA/ SILIS RO/ mEOn. Legend in 5 lines. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36484/normal_Sear-1758.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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