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<p>[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 520607, member: 15199"]Boss, sorry I was messing with a property management problem all afternoon and haven't been following the thread. I have never used oil on any coins. nor MS70, Blue Ribbon or anything like that as a preservative. I agree with Thad that oil has its own problems and as long as the coins are kept from circulating environmental air and moisture, no change in the surface should occur. A closed container such as an air-tite, or the hard plastic holders contain more air when closed than a Koin-tain shell, so as barometric pressure varies, the air can move in and out more readily. The Koin-tain has much less exchange with new environmental air. If they weren't so @#*% hard for my fingers to handle, open , close...I would use them more often. I think that tightness of seal is why White found them highly, but not ENTIRELY effective. </p><p><br /></p><p> As you recall, I did a simple experiment with Ziplock vacuum bags and I really like those bags. I do find that a piece of tape over the valve increases their vacuum holding ability. Unfortunately they disappear rapidly into the kitchen. Walmart has a good price on them and the pumps. I still prefer to use a heat sealer and seal the mylar 2x2 flip after squeezing the air out as the coins are easier to organize for me</p><p><br /></p><p> I use to build and maintain mechanical clocks as a hobby, and finding a clock oil that was light enough not to slow the gears, stable enough not to gunk up, and neutral enough not to corrode the brass parts took me years. I just have one small vial of it left. If I used an oil , it would have to have those properties, and my old supplier does have it anymore <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p> I do like Spock,:goofer: but I can't agree with his theory that verdigris is almost an alive infection that can grow and spread on its own<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. It will only develop if there is moisture and corrosive agents like acids, sulfides,etc. and when this is removed, the verdigris will stop increasing. The coin I did in Verdigone experiment, when I finally rinse it with acetone or xylene and put it into a protective environment, I do not expect any increase in damage. The remaining corrosion can not increase without moisture and environmental factors in the air. It Won't disappear, but it won't grow either! That's my story and I am sticking with it!:hammer:</p><p><br /></p><p>Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 520607, member: 15199"]Boss, sorry I was messing with a property management problem all afternoon and haven't been following the thread. I have never used oil on any coins. nor MS70, Blue Ribbon or anything like that as a preservative. I agree with Thad that oil has its own problems and as long as the coins are kept from circulating environmental air and moisture, no change in the surface should occur. A closed container such as an air-tite, or the hard plastic holders contain more air when closed than a Koin-tain shell, so as barometric pressure varies, the air can move in and out more readily. The Koin-tain has much less exchange with new environmental air. If they weren't so @#*% hard for my fingers to handle, open , close...I would use them more often. I think that tightness of seal is why White found them highly, but not ENTIRELY effective. As you recall, I did a simple experiment with Ziplock vacuum bags and I really like those bags. I do find that a piece of tape over the valve increases their vacuum holding ability. Unfortunately they disappear rapidly into the kitchen. Walmart has a good price on them and the pumps. I still prefer to use a heat sealer and seal the mylar 2x2 flip after squeezing the air out as the coins are easier to organize for me I use to build and maintain mechanical clocks as a hobby, and finding a clock oil that was light enough not to slow the gears, stable enough not to gunk up, and neutral enough not to corrode the brass parts took me years. I just have one small vial of it left. If I used an oil , it would have to have those properties, and my old supplier does have it anymore :( I do like Spock,:goofer: but I can't agree with his theory that verdigris is almost an alive infection that can grow and spread on its own:eek:. It will only develop if there is moisture and corrosive agents like acids, sulfides,etc. and when this is removed, the verdigris will stop increasing. The coin I did in Verdigone experiment, when I finally rinse it with acetone or xylene and put it into a protective environment, I do not expect any increase in damage. The remaining corrosion can not increase without moisture and environmental factors in the air. It Won't disappear, but it won't grow either! That's my story and I am sticking with it!:hammer: Jim[/QUOTE]
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