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<p>[QUOTE="Moe "Wolfy" Wilder, post: 8280993, member: 114824"]I still haven't found that reference to the coin's dies, and I was hoping for a less blurry image. I will eventually get better images. These were taken with my daughter's cell phone cam and I think her hands were just too shaky. I found this:</p><p><br /></p><p>AE4- Romulus Augustus - 9-10mm, 0.45 gms</p><p>Obv- DNROMVLVSA(VGVSTVSPF)AVG</p><p>Bust Right, Robed?, Laureled</p><p>Rev- No Legend, Cross in Wreath</p><p>Exergue- RQM, or R Wreath M</p><p><br /></p><p>Ex: 2013, ebay, uncleaned, seller from Spain.</p><p>When first found only the back of the bust was exposed. It looked like an "L".</p><p><br /></p><p>Ordinarily, I would believe that no bronze issue existed, but ...</p><p><br /></p><p>If I am wrong, and it is not a genuine AE4, the only other thing it could be is an ancient counterfeit tremissis. They do look very similar, HOWEVER, the tremissis was about 13mm, or at least 3-4mm larger, and weighed 1.4-1.5 gms, or a whole gram heavier. Oh, in addition, the Exergue should say COMOB. </p><p><br /></p><p>So, if it is a contemporary counterfeit, it wouldn't have fooled very many people.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another thing to note is it was <u>covered</u> with counterstamps (AVG and CAESAR, for the most part) some of the outlines are still visible. The counterstamps are what caused the "L" shape. In my opinion, from the number of counterstamps and the way they were applied one next to the other apparently at the same time, it appears someone tried to obliterate the entire coin, but missed the first name on this one. Following that logic, I think a batch of these were struck, but not released, before RA was deposed. Stuck with possibly thousands of coins that could not be released, mint officials defaced them intentionally so they could be released anonymously.</p><p><br /></p><p>Updated images will be posted as soon as I can, but I am interested in what others think at this time.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1462553[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1462555[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1462556[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1462554[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Moe "Wolfy" Wilder, post: 8280993, member: 114824"]I still haven't found that reference to the coin's dies, and I was hoping for a less blurry image. I will eventually get better images. These were taken with my daughter's cell phone cam and I think her hands were just too shaky. I found this: AE4- Romulus Augustus - 9-10mm, 0.45 gms Obv- DNROMVLVSA(VGVSTVSPF)AVG Bust Right, Robed?, Laureled Rev- No Legend, Cross in Wreath Exergue- RQM, or R Wreath M Ex: 2013, ebay, uncleaned, seller from Spain. When first found only the back of the bust was exposed. It looked like an "L". Ordinarily, I would believe that no bronze issue existed, but ... If I am wrong, and it is not a genuine AE4, the only other thing it could be is an ancient counterfeit tremissis. They do look very similar, HOWEVER, the tremissis was about 13mm, or at least 3-4mm larger, and weighed 1.4-1.5 gms, or a whole gram heavier. Oh, in addition, the Exergue should say COMOB. So, if it is a contemporary counterfeit, it wouldn't have fooled very many people. Another thing to note is it was [U]covered[/U] with counterstamps (AVG and CAESAR, for the most part) some of the outlines are still visible. The counterstamps are what caused the "L" shape. In my opinion, from the number of counterstamps and the way they were applied one next to the other apparently at the same time, it appears someone tried to obliterate the entire coin, but missed the first name on this one. Following that logic, I think a batch of these were struck, but not released, before RA was deposed. Stuck with possibly thousands of coins that could not be released, mint officials defaced them intentionally so they could be released anonymously. Updated images will be posted as soon as I can, but I am interested in what others think at this time. [ATTACH=full]1462553[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1462555[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1462556[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1462554[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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