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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ryro, post: 3896920, member: 91461&quot;][ATTACH=full]1027514[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Rome always had a grudge against Macedonia. In hind sight it was probably an inferiority complex... A complex that was the size of Alexander the great&#039;s empire.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1027484[/ATTACH]</p><p>(Actual size of Rome&#039;s inferiority complex of the Macedonians)</p><p><br /></p><p>The Romans’ relished their battles with Pyrrhus. As these were the closest engagements as they would have with Alexander. As much as I love Pyrrhus, we must remember that his campaigns were with fought mercenaries and not the grizzled veterans and generals that Alexander had inherited from his father, Philip II, the first unified ruler of Greece and King of Europe.</p><p>What if ATG had gone West instead of East?</p><p>I suppose first you would have to ask why would he head out to trample a bunch of illiterate farmers that had just gotten rid of their last King less then 175 years before Alexander exploded onto Persian soil with a symbolic javelins throw from his ship?</p><p>As well as lack of motive to go to Rome, Alexander had some of the best motivators of men that a leader could ask for already built into the Persian campaign. More money than they could carry. More lands then they could occupy. And the reason stated again and again by the sources,&nbsp; retribution for what Persia had done to them and their forefathers (funny enough within a decade of the Romans chasing out their last King the Persian war was underway). And as added incentive, Xenophon had recently (370 BCE) written his book about the 10,000 Greek mercenaries whom marched in and out of Persia showing that gold and silver laden fruit was ripe for the picking.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1027487[/ATTACH]</p><p>(The path blazed by Xenophon and the 10,000 mercenaries hired by Cyrus the younger and then left to die far off in a foreign land)</p><p><br /></p><p>Getting past the lack of reasons that I can think of (please let me know if you can think of plausible reasons for Alexander to march West to Rome) the Romans where just to much in they&#039;re infancy to put up the fight that would&#039;ve avoided them being one more conquered land of the great one.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1027485[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Greatness himself aside, once Rome started picking off the descendents of the diadochi (Seleucids, Makedon and finally the Ptolemies) it was clear they would make provinces of all of em, through <i>just</i> means or not.</p><p>In the end, despite some last gasps from Philip V and Perseus, Rome won out and dived macedon into 4 client republics governed by Rome.</p><p>During this time and after Macedon&nbsp; would still produce some really fun and popular coins:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1027479[/ATTACH]</p><p>Roman Republican Period</p><p>167-165 B.C. Æ Unit.</p><p>22 mm. 9.43 grams.</p><p>Obverse: Facing mask of Silenos with pointed ears, wearing ivy wreath.</p><p>Reverse: MAKE / ΔΟΝΩΝ in two lines within oak wreath.</p><p>SNG Copenhagen 1324-6; MacKay pl. III, 10; Touratsoglou, Macedonia 25.Very Fine. Dark earthen patina</p><p><br /></p><p>Very little is known about this attractive and interesting type. Originally attributed as an issue of the Roman D. Julius Silanus, more recent scholarship, particularly hoard analyses, have proved this untenable. The period to which it now belongs was marked by turmoil caused largely by various barbarian invasions, and coin production was sporadic at all of the Macedonian mints, and probably related to military activity. The Silenos type and oak wreaths were common local motifs used on coins in the Thraco-Macedonian region.</p><p><br /></p><p>This one was minted during or directly after a little, and the final, skirmish called the 4th Macedonian war:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1027480[/ATTACH]</p><p>Roman Republican Period</p><p>Macedonia, Roman Protectorate. Ca. 148-147 B.C. Æ (21 mm, 10.36 g, 12 h). Gaius Publilius, quaestor. Helmeted head of Athena right / MAKEΔONΩN above TAMIOY ΓAIOY/ΠOΠΛIΛIOY in two lines; mongrams above and bleow; all within oak-wreath. MacKay pl. III, 1; SNG Copenhagen 1318.</p><p>Former: Savoca</p><p><br /></p><p>Even into the imperial Period Macedon was &quot;mak&quot;ing fun Coinage:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1027509[/ATTACH]</p><p>Tiberius</p><p>14 – 37</p><p>Bronze, uncertain mint in Macedonia (Philippi ?), Æ 4.49 g. Bare head r. Rev. Two priests ploughing with yoke of oxen. BMC 89. RPC 1657.</p><p>Green patina and good very fine</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1027510[/ATTACH]</p><p>Macedon. Koinon of Macedon. Claudius AD41-54. Bronze Æ</p><p>23mm., 9,79g. nearly very fine</p><p><br /></p><p>My latest win, from AMCC2 is of a coin I&#039;ve sought ever since [USER=51347]@Alegandron[/USER]&nbsp; posted his beauty, shows the vindictive side of Rome after the wars as they trample the shield of the Macedonians:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1027481[/ATTACH]</p><p>T. Quinctius Flamininus, 126 BCE, AR denarius. Rome, 3.91g, 18mm.</p><p>Obv: Helmeted bust of Roma right; flamen&#039;s cap behind; XVI ligate below chin</p><p>Rev: The Dioscuri riding right, each holding a couched lance, stars above; Macedonian shield between T-Q below; ROMA in exergue.</p><p>Crawford 267/1</p><p>The key feature of the type – the Macedonian shield on the reverse – is very clear on this example.</p><p><br /></p><p>Issued by a descendant of the more famous Flamininus, a philhellene who prosecuted the second Macedonian War against Philip V and proclaimed freedom for Greece.</p><p>Ex: AMCC 2 consigned by Caesar_Augustus</p><p><br /></p><p>Please post your Macedonians, Roman republic, Maco/Romano coins, thoughts or anything you&#039;ve got.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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