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Message:: [QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2410897, member: 19463"]<a href="http://www.amazon.com/handbook-papal-coins-1268-1431-Renaissance/dp/B0006ES9NK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462159592&sr=8-1&keywords=john+carlin+ryan" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.amazon.com/handbook-papal-coins-1268-1431-Renaissance/dp/B0006ES9NK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462159592&sr=8-1&keywords=john+carlin+ryan" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/handbook-papal-coins-1268-1431-Renaissance/dp/B0006ES9NK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462159592&sr=8-1&keywords=john+carlin+ryan</a> I wonder if any of you have seen the above book.  It was written by a friend from the DC club and was intended to be the first of several volumes but the Berman book covered the larger view and John's book ending with 1534 sold poorly.  It was the first book for which I did the photos.  I had a great deal of trouble eve telling which way was up on some of the coins.  I have never seen the Berman book and never had any interest in the coins.  From what I can see, your variation is not listed in it.  The only bolognino had the obverse legend GG PP VND.  The photos were before digital and I no longer have the negatives.   There are only half a dozen plates with perhaps 50 coins total shown and a line drawing or two for each pope.  This brings back memories.[/QUOTE]