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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7161251, member: 19463"]Well, I got that far but have no dog in this fight. Perhaps my lack of respect for the oligarchy hinders my interest. My coins of the type were shown on my page on the matter written long ago reflecting information then available and not since updated. The fact that I was then using the 67 BC date for Gaius means nothing. The fact that I moved the page to my poor quality pages section rather than updating it means more about my unwillingness to accept any of the arguments. Those who want to read what I had to say in 2000 are welcome but, please, don't quote me.</p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/acmfrugi.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/acmfrugi.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/acmfrugi.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The coins are two rather ordinary examples of the father and a fourree of the son.</p><p>The three were selected partly as numbers illustrating the relative die life of obverse and reverse or showing how the dies were numbered but largely because they were in my price bracket. The first is sword / D star</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1274591[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Second is 77 / 94 showing the down arrow L (50) and the subtractive numeral 94 (XCIV). Please don't tell my Latin teacher about Romans using subtractive numerals. She would be over 120 now and might be shocked. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1274592[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Most and least at the same time is my fourree of the son. As Donna pointed out, nice ones of these are harder to find. This fourree found me in 1989 and never was upgraded. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1274599[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The few that read my page may have noted I mentioned the rocking horse pose which is completely unnatural as was shown by the 19th century photographer Eadweard Muybridge's experiments in the photography of motion. As a photographer, I found this matter quite interesting both then and now. Muybridge's motion work came around the time he was acquitted of the killing of his wife's lover on the grounds of justifiable homicide. I always wondered, had he been convicted, how long it would have been before someone else realized that horses di not run this way. The legal system came through on the side of art and science. It might be noted that his legal bills were underwritten by Leland Stanford who was commissioning Muybridge to settle the horse question once and for all so one might also wonder how the case would have been resolved had there not been this patronage. This might seem out of place in a coin discussion but these coins do show that the Romans shared the erroneous belief of the 19th century that horses ran with this pose. </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadweard_Muybridge" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadweard_Muybridge" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadweard_Muybridge</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7161251, member: 19463"]Well, I got that far but have no dog in this fight. Perhaps my lack of respect for the oligarchy hinders my interest. My coins of the type were shown on my page on the matter written long ago reflecting information then available and not since updated. The fact that I was then using the 67 BC date for Gaius means nothing. The fact that I moved the page to my poor quality pages section rather than updating it means more about my unwillingness to accept any of the arguments. Those who want to read what I had to say in 2000 are welcome but, please, don't quote me. [URL]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/acmfrugi.html[/URL] The coins are two rather ordinary examples of the father and a fourree of the son. The three were selected partly as numbers illustrating the relative die life of obverse and reverse or showing how the dies were numbered but largely because they were in my price bracket. The first is sword / D star [ATTACH=full]1274591[/ATTACH] Second is 77 / 94 showing the down arrow L (50) and the subtractive numeral 94 (XCIV). Please don't tell my Latin teacher about Romans using subtractive numerals. She would be over 120 now and might be shocked. [ATTACH=full]1274592[/ATTACH] Most and least at the same time is my fourree of the son. As Donna pointed out, nice ones of these are harder to find. This fourree found me in 1989 and never was upgraded. [ATTACH=full]1274599[/ATTACH] The few that read my page may have noted I mentioned the rocking horse pose which is completely unnatural as was shown by the 19th century photographer Eadweard Muybridge's experiments in the photography of motion. As a photographer, I found this matter quite interesting both then and now. Muybridge's motion work came around the time he was acquitted of the killing of his wife's lover on the grounds of justifiable homicide. I always wondered, had he been convicted, how long it would have been before someone else realized that horses di not run this way. The legal system came through on the side of art and science. It might be noted that his legal bills were underwritten by Leland Stanford who was commissioning Muybridge to settle the horse question once and for all so one might also wonder how the case would have been resolved had there not been this patronage. This might seem out of place in a coin discussion but these coins do show that the Romans shared the erroneous belief of the 19th century that horses ran with this pose. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eadweard_Muybridge[/URL][/QUOTE]
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