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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 4854280, member: 110350"]I have that sinking "Oh no, not again!" feeling in the pit of my stomach. I received a private message earlier today from one of our fellow members (not the same person who pointed out that the Mark Antony legionary denarius I bought is a fake) suggesting that it's highly suspicious that my new Pomponius Molo is not only a double die-match to the CNG example sold in 2007, but that the two coins have what appears to be the exact same flan shape, and the same degree of off-centeredness on both sides. (I think that the CNG coin is actually a bit more off-centered than mine, to the right.) Here are my coin and the CNG coin again:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172149[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172151[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Therefore, my correspondent believes that either one of these coins is cast from the other, or both are cast from a third example. He did agree with me, however, that it's unlikely that my coin was cast from the CNG coin, given the greater degree of detail on mine as well as the fact that the right-hand portion of the reverse of mine shows quite a bit more of the scene than appears on the CNG example. My example doesn't <i>look</i> cast to me -- not that I pretend to any sort of expertise! Both in the photo and even more so in hand, the figures are sharp and don't look mushy. Looking at the enlargements posted below, I don't really see anything that look like cast bubbles on mine, except perhaps a little bit around Apollo's chin. I suppose that the marks I see on the CNG example when zooming in could conceivably be cast bubbles or perhaps just pitting.</p><p><br /></p><p>If measurements mean anything, my coin is 19.7 x 19.9 mm., 3.86 g., and 9 h. The measurements given for the CNG coin are 19 mm. and 3.81 g.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know if the fact that I found several additional reverse die matches to my coin, and one other possible obverse die match, in the RRDP pages at CRRO, is of any significance. In fact, I wonder if the final example that Bing posted might also be a reverse die match.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are some larger, closeup pictures of my coin that I took this afternoon, if they're of any help.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172156[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172157[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I also took a few photos of the edge of my coin, and, unfortunately, there appear to be file marks or something similar at various points. (Sorry the photos are a bit blurry; that's the best I was able to do.) That's a bad sign, right?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172158[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172159[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1172161[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I very much hope that one of our renowned experts on the authenticity of Roman coins (including Republican coins) might have the time to comment.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm reasonably hopeful that if my coin turns out to be a fake and I can provide evidence, Marti Numismatics will accept a return, even though, given the discount, I technically purchased the coin from them directly rather than through VCoins. But I would very much prefer not to have to go through all that again!</p><p><br /></p><p>Many thanks.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 4854280, member: 110350"]I have that sinking "Oh no, not again!" feeling in the pit of my stomach. I received a private message earlier today from one of our fellow members (not the same person who pointed out that the Mark Antony legionary denarius I bought is a fake) suggesting that it's highly suspicious that my new Pomponius Molo is not only a double die-match to the CNG example sold in 2007, but that the two coins have what appears to be the exact same flan shape, and the same degree of off-centeredness on both sides. (I think that the CNG coin is actually a bit more off-centered than mine, to the right.) Here are my coin and the CNG coin again: [ATTACH=full]1172149[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1172151[/ATTACH] Therefore, my correspondent believes that either one of these coins is cast from the other, or both are cast from a third example. He did agree with me, however, that it's unlikely that my coin was cast from the CNG coin, given the greater degree of detail on mine as well as the fact that the right-hand portion of the reverse of mine shows quite a bit more of the scene than appears on the CNG example. My example doesn't [I]look[/I] cast to me -- not that I pretend to any sort of expertise! Both in the photo and even more so in hand, the figures are sharp and don't look mushy. Looking at the enlargements posted below, I don't really see anything that look like cast bubbles on mine, except perhaps a little bit around Apollo's chin. I suppose that the marks I see on the CNG example when zooming in could conceivably be cast bubbles or perhaps just pitting. If measurements mean anything, my coin is 19.7 x 19.9 mm., 3.86 g., and 9 h. The measurements given for the CNG coin are 19 mm. and 3.81 g. I don't know if the fact that I found several additional reverse die matches to my coin, and one other possible obverse die match, in the RRDP pages at CRRO, is of any significance. In fact, I wonder if the final example that Bing posted might also be a reverse die match. Here are some larger, closeup pictures of my coin that I took this afternoon, if they're of any help. [ATTACH=full]1172156[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1172157[/ATTACH] I also took a few photos of the edge of my coin, and, unfortunately, there appear to be file marks or something similar at various points. (Sorry the photos are a bit blurry; that's the best I was able to do.) That's a bad sign, right? [ATTACH=full]1172158[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1172159[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1172161[/ATTACH] I very much hope that one of our renowned experts on the authenticity of Roman coins (including Republican coins) might have the time to comment. I'm reasonably hopeful that if my coin turns out to be a fake and I can provide evidence, Marti Numismatics will accept a return, even though, given the discount, I technically purchased the coin from them directly rather than through VCoins. But I would very much prefer not to have to go through all that again! Many thanks.[/QUOTE]
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