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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 6588311, member: 110350"]<font size="5">I said earlier in this thread that I've been looking for some time for an example of Crawford 263/1 (the Caecilius Metellus coin with Roma on the obverse and a Macedonian shield on the reverse with an elephant head in the center), but that it's very difficult to find one with both a clear reverse legend around the shield, and a recognizable elephant head in the middle. </font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5">By pure coincidence, Forvm Ancient Coins put one up, apparently sometime in the last 24 hours, that's hardly perfect (poor Roma has a terrible skin condition on her chin and jaw), but easily meets both those requirements. In fact, I really like the reverse. Plus, the price was affordable for me. As soon as I saw it, I realized that I'm very unlikely to see another one as nice at a better price for a long time, if ever. So I went ahead and bought it. When it arrives, it will be my Roman Republican denarius # 48, and my seventh elephant coin -- the third from a member of the Caecilii Metelli family.</font></p><p><font size="5"><br /></font></p><p><font size="5">Rather than waiting to post a photo until it arrives, I'll do so now, while this thread is still fairly recent. I'll wait until the coin arrives to give it my own description; here is the seller's, with my additions in brackets:</font></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Ch VF Roman Republic Denarius 127 BC Shield Decorated With Elephant Head</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Roman Republic, M. Caecilius Q.f. Metellus, 127 B.C.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>RR93647. Silver denarius, Crawford 263/1[a], Sydenham 480, RSC I Caecilia 29, Russo RBW 1064, SRCV I 139, <b>Choice VF, toned</b>, marks, scattered porosity, 3.801 g, 19.5 mm, 270 [degrees], Rome mint, head of Roma right in a winged helmet, [star on helment flap]. ROMA [upwards] behind, X (XVI ligature, mark of value=16 asses) below chin; reverse Macedonian shield, decorated with elephant head in center, M METELLVS Q F around, all within laurel wreath; from the Errett Bishop Collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1264946[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Rather than my usual footnote, just a few quick comments:</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason the coin is classified as Crawford 263/1a is that the obverse "ROMA" legend goes upwards; the ROMA on 263/1b goes downwards.</p><p><br /></p><p>The supposed "star" on the helmet flap is very difficult to discern, but from looking at other examples on acsearch, I believe it's supposed to be what look like chicken-scratches below and slightly to the right of the bottom of the wing on Roma's helmet.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reverse design apparently honors the moneyer's father, Q. Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus, who defeated the Macedonian pretender Andriscus in 148 BCE.</p><p><br /></p><p>As with the other examples of this type shown earlier in this thread, the elephant head in the center of the shield clearly does have a bell. The way it's placed, however, it looks far more like a bottle in the elephant's mouth, from which it's drinking whatever elephants drink when they're in Rome, than a bell around its neck. I think it adds a certain charm to the scene! Even if the elephant does look a bit surly.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, I Googled Errett Bishop -- not a common name, one would think -- and the only one I found was a U.S. mathematician who died in 1983. I suppose he could have been a coin collector, but who knows?</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, I do hope that I can repeat this magic trick regularly in the future -- mentioning a specific coin-type I want and then seeing it show up for sale within the next two days![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 6588311, member: 110350"][SIZE=5]I said earlier in this thread that I've been looking for some time for an example of Crawford 263/1 (the Caecilius Metellus coin with Roma on the obverse and a Macedonian shield on the reverse with an elephant head in the center), but that it's very difficult to find one with both a clear reverse legend around the shield, and a recognizable elephant head in the middle. [/SIZE] [SIZE=5]By pure coincidence, Forvm Ancient Coins put one up, apparently sometime in the last 24 hours, that's hardly perfect (poor Roma has a terrible skin condition on her chin and jaw), but easily meets both those requirements. In fact, I really like the reverse. Plus, the price was affordable for me. As soon as I saw it, I realized that I'm very unlikely to see another one as nice at a better price for a long time, if ever. So I went ahead and bought it. When it arrives, it will be my Roman Republican denarius # 48, and my seventh elephant coin -- the third from a member of the Caecilii Metelli family. Rather than waiting to post a photo until it arrives, I'll do so now, while this thread is still fairly recent. I'll wait until the coin arrives to give it my own description; here is the seller's, with my additions in brackets:[/SIZE] [B]Ch VF Roman Republic Denarius 127 BC Shield Decorated With Elephant Head Roman Republic, M. Caecilius Q.f. Metellus, 127 B.C.[/B] RR93647. Silver denarius, Crawford 263/1[a], Sydenham 480, RSC I Caecilia 29, Russo RBW 1064, SRCV I 139, [B]Choice VF, toned[/B], marks, scattered porosity, 3.801 g, 19.5 mm, 270 [degrees], Rome mint, head of Roma right in a winged helmet, [star on helment flap]. ROMA [upwards] behind, X (XVI ligature, mark of value=16 asses) below chin; reverse Macedonian shield, decorated with elephant head in center, M METELLVS Q F around, all within laurel wreath; from the Errett Bishop Collection. [ATTACH=full]1264946[/ATTACH] Rather than my usual footnote, just a few quick comments: The reason the coin is classified as Crawford 263/1a is that the obverse "ROMA" legend goes upwards; the ROMA on 263/1b goes downwards. The supposed "star" on the helmet flap is very difficult to discern, but from looking at other examples on acsearch, I believe it's supposed to be what look like chicken-scratches below and slightly to the right of the bottom of the wing on Roma's helmet. The reverse design apparently honors the moneyer's father, Q. Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus, who defeated the Macedonian pretender Andriscus in 148 BCE. As with the other examples of this type shown earlier in this thread, the elephant head in the center of the shield clearly does have a bell. The way it's placed, however, it looks far more like a bottle in the elephant's mouth, from which it's drinking whatever elephants drink when they're in Rome, than a bell around its neck. I think it adds a certain charm to the scene! Even if the elephant does look a bit surly. Finally, I Googled Errett Bishop -- not a common name, one would think -- and the only one I found was a U.S. mathematician who died in 1983. I suppose he could have been a coin collector, but who knows? Anyway, I do hope that I can repeat this magic trick regularly in the future -- mentioning a specific coin-type I want and then seeing it show up for sale within the next two days![/QUOTE]
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