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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;DonnaML, post: 5011160, member: 110350&quot;][USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER], it seems logical that Crawford himself may have discovered this. He specifically notes at p. 377 that all the known control letters are attested in the Paris collection at the Bibliothèque Nationale, and the Paris collection is one that he personally reviewed himself. (See the list of collections cited, at Crawford p. 129, with an asterisk marking the Paris collection as one that he reviewed.) It&#039;s not surprising that Grueber didn&#039;t notice the pattern, since it appears that as of the time BMCRR was published in 1904, the British Museum had only 10 of the 11 control-letters (missing the &quot;V&quot;). See BMCRR at pp. 343-344.</p><p><br /></p><p>One thing Crawford doesn&#039;t note is that the same 11 letters can also be used to spell out MAMILIVS, so arguably the &quot;code&quot; was meant to stand for the moneyer&#039;s entire name -- C. MAMILIVS LIMITANVS C.F.</p><p><br /></p><p>I assume, by the way, that if anyone had discovered examples of this issue with control-letters not part of the moneyer&#039;s name, at any time in the 46 years since Crawford&#039;s publication, that fact would have been publicized. I checked Schaefer&#039;s online RRDP, and there&#039;s nothing new there; I couldn&#039;t even find all of the known letters.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also take it that if there were any other Republican coins with such a code, one of our experts would have mentioned it. </p><p><br /></p><p>As far as my question about other coins depicting Ulysses/Odysseus are concerned, there&#039;s nothing in the OCRE and RPC indexes, which seems to rule out Imperial or Provincial coins. The only other Republican examples appear to be the several bronze coins comprising Crawford 149, issued in the previous century by Lucius Mamilius, a presumable relative of this moneyer, and showing Ulysses standing on a prow leaning on his staff.&nbsp; See also BMCRR pp. 97-98.&nbsp; There do appear to be a few ancient Greek coins depicting Odysseus; see&nbsp; <a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?IS_ADVANCED=1&amp;ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&amp;ITEM_DESC=odysseus&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1&amp;TABS_TYPE=3&amp;CONTAINER_NAME=&amp;CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=3&amp;VIEW_TYPE=0&amp;MAX_COUNT=10000&amp;PAGE=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?IS_ADVANCED=1&amp;ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&amp;ITEM_DESC=odysseus&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1&amp;TABS_TYPE=3&amp;CONTAINER_NAME=&amp;CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=3&amp;VIEW_TYPE=0&amp;MAX_COUNT=10000&amp;PAGE=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?IS_ADVANCED=1&amp;ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&amp;ITEM_DESC=odysseus&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&amp;SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1&amp;TABS_TYPE=3&amp;CONTAINER_NAME=&amp;CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=3&amp;VIEW_TYPE=0&amp;MAX_COUNT=10000&amp;PAGE=1</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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