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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ryro, post: 6689146, member: 91461&quot;]I think we are giving those Roman republic die cutters waaayyy too much credit here for an innovation that never happened. It is simply a Roman Gens slighting the Macedonians because their ancestor beat up on Philip V and his boy Perseus. That Gens was famous for elephants (it being due to their capture of elephant&#039;s all the way back during the Punic War) hence the elephant on the shield. &quot;Haha. We beat you up. Now your stuff is ours.&quot; Way to keep it classy Rome. </p><p>If we are actually talking about the MSCs that were being aped here then it seems backwards to focus on the tetradrachms as most were made provincially after Rome had dominated and split Macedon into 4. Only the Perseus and Pan tets come to mind that weren&#039;t and they were still right on the cusp of the take over.</p><p>The first MSCs were all bronze, minted under Alexander and sport maaaaannnyyy different types of shield bosses, amounts of crescents, ranging from 4 to 10 (though, MOST have 5) omphalos, monograms, spots dots and dings. Wreaths are a somewhat common theme on the reverse of these coins when they were minted in Lydia (before Rome came along). Nothing new or innovative about what this Roman die cutter did. Followed a pattern done many times before. </p><p>Here is another of several MSCs with an elephant. It is the oldest MSC made of silver that I am aware of. Minted by many folks favored Diadochi, Seleucus, at less than half a gram it is no tet. However, it is much more rare and one of my most highly coveted in a collection that covets MSCs:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1270034[/ATTACH] </p><p><b><u>Seleucus I</u></b></p><p><br /></p><p>AR Hemiobol, Antioch on the Orotnes 300-281 BCE 0.49 gr 8MM</p><p><br /></p><p>OBV: Omphalos on Macedonian Shield.</p><p><br /></p><p>Rev: BA έE, elephant head right. Dotted border. Left field N</p><p><br /></p><p>Ref: SC 14</p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s a few hairs of the dog:</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ryros-top-10-macedonian-shield-coins-of-2020.370866/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ryros-top-10-macedonian-shield-coins-of-2020.370866/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ryros-top-10-macedonian-shield-coins-of-2020.370866/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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