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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 4513064, member: 110350"]Does a satyr count as an animal? Since it's my thread and I make the rules for it, I say yes -- just as I would for a centaur, a pegasus, a capricorn, a hippocamp, or a criocamp. (Probably not too many of you know what a criocamp is without looking it up!) After all, the satyr on this coin does have a tail. Anyway:</p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Republic, Lucius Marcius Censorinus, AR Denarius, Rome Mint 82 BCE. Obv. Laureate head of Apollo right, traces of control mark (unidentifiable) behind / Rev. The satyr Marsyas standing left, gazing upwards, raising right hand and holding wineskin over left shoulder; tall column behind him, surmounted by statue of draped figure (Minerva [<i>RSC</i>] or Victory [<i>Crawford</i>]); L. CENSOR downwards before him. Crawford 363/1d, RSC I Marcia 24d, Sear RCV I 281 (ill.), BMCRR 2657. 18 mm, 3.80 g, 5 h.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1118260[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>A detail of Marsyas:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1118267[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>According to Crawford, the moneyer probably chose the satyr Marsyas as the subject for the reverse of this coin as a play on his own <i>nomen</i>, Marcius, from the <i>gens</i> Marcia. See also <a href="http://www.ancientcoingallery.net/categories?Ruler=L.%20Marcius%20Censorinus&Category=Roman_Republican" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ancientcoingallery.net/categories?Ruler=L.%20Marcius%20Censorinus&Category=Roman_Republican" rel="nofollow">http://www.ancientcoingallery.net/categories?Ruler=L. Marcius Censorinus&Category=Roman_Republican</a>: "The symbolism may refer to the moneyer’s family line, the gens Marcia, who claimed legendary descent from Marsyas. It may also be connected to the Social Wars - Marsyas was regarded as a symbol of political freedom, particularly free speech." </p><p><br /></p><p>To make the connection between Marsyas on the reverse and Apollo on the obverse, for those not familiar with the relevant myth, I'll quote from the entry for Marsyas in John Melville Jones, <i>A Dictionary of Ancient Roman Coins</i> (London 1990) at p. 176:</p><p><br /></p><p>"In Greek mythology Marsyas was a satyr who challenged the god of music, Apollo, to a [musical] contest in which the loser was to suffer the punishment decreed by the victor. When he lost he was flayed alive. A statue of a satyr with a wineskin which stood in the Forum at Rome bore the name of Marsyas and was regarded as having a symbolic meaning. Reproductions of it were set up in the forums of some provincial cities as a sign that they had been granted the same civic rights as Italian cities."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 4513064, member: 110350"]Does a satyr count as an animal? Since it's my thread and I make the rules for it, I say yes -- just as I would for a centaur, a pegasus, a capricorn, a hippocamp, or a criocamp. (Probably not too many of you know what a criocamp is without looking it up!) After all, the satyr on this coin does have a tail. Anyway: Roman Republic, Lucius Marcius Censorinus, AR Denarius, Rome Mint 82 BCE. Obv. Laureate head of Apollo right, traces of control mark (unidentifiable) behind / Rev. The satyr Marsyas standing left, gazing upwards, raising right hand and holding wineskin over left shoulder; tall column behind him, surmounted by statue of draped figure (Minerva [[I]RSC[/I]] or Victory [[I]Crawford[/I]]); L. CENSOR downwards before him. Crawford 363/1d, RSC I Marcia 24d, Sear RCV I 281 (ill.), BMCRR 2657. 18 mm, 3.80 g, 5 h. [ATTACH=full]1118260[/ATTACH] A detail of Marsyas: [ATTACH=full]1118267[/ATTACH] According to Crawford, the moneyer probably chose the satyr Marsyas as the subject for the reverse of this coin as a play on his own [I]nomen[/I], Marcius, from the [I]gens[/I] Marcia. See also [URL]http://www.ancientcoingallery.net/categories?Ruler=L.%20Marcius%20Censorinus&Category=Roman_Republican[/URL]: "The symbolism may refer to the moneyer’s family line, the gens Marcia, who claimed legendary descent from Marsyas. It may also be connected to the Social Wars - Marsyas was regarded as a symbol of political freedom, particularly free speech." To make the connection between Marsyas on the reverse and Apollo on the obverse, for those not familiar with the relevant myth, I'll quote from the entry for Marsyas in John Melville Jones, [I]A Dictionary of Ancient Roman Coins[/I] (London 1990) at p. 176: "In Greek mythology Marsyas was a satyr who challenged the god of music, Apollo, to a [musical] contest in which the loser was to suffer the punishment decreed by the victor. When he lost he was flayed alive. A statue of a satyr with a wineskin which stood in the Forum at Rome bore the name of Marsyas and was regarded as having a symbolic meaning. Reproductions of it were set up in the forums of some provincial cities as a sign that they had been granted the same civic rights as Italian cities."[/QUOTE]
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