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<p>[QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 3813607, member: 82322"]I consider a cheap mystery coin to be the best possible outcome. Why spend $5k so the inside of my safety deposit box can enjoy an aureus from known dies?</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is one I have been enjoying for over a year. I posted this before, and don't expect answers.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1016473[/ATTACH]</p><p>Unknown. 29mm, 13.85g</p><p>Obv: uncertain inscription ????ΓΙΟ - ???Ο?MA????? ; Bust right (Maximinus?)</p><p>Rev: ...Π ΟΛƐΙΤωΝ; Nude Man (Herakes?) standing left, club (?) in right hand, left hand raised (holding scepter?)</p><p>Countermark: Є (Epsilon) in circle (mark of value 5?). Howgego 802; cf Howgego 803-806.</p><p><br /></p><p>I thought of this guy because your guy is also nude. Most mythical figures are clothed on coins. Only a few go nude: <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4798417" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4798417" rel="nofollow">Dionysos</a>, <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=299813" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=299813" rel="nofollow">Zeus</a>, <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=175640" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=175640" rel="nofollow">Apollo</a>, <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=533870" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=533870" rel="nofollow">Poseidon</a>, <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1943579" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1943579" rel="nofollow">“Athlete”</a>, and <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4033444" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4033444" rel="nofollow">Perseus</a>, Harpocrates, Marsyas. If the figure is holding a club it is Herakles but I am only 90% sure I see a club. I found depictions of Apollo with his arm in my pose but never nude -- he is always in a short cloak ('chalmys').</p><p><br /></p><p>For me, inscription probably means this comes from a city whose name ends in "...polis". Which means a lot of cities! I don't want to derail the discussion of your coin by talking about mine.</p><p><br /></p><p>On yours I thought I saw two ribbons coming off the body to the left. You suggest "chalmys", which is different than nude.</p><p><br /></p><p>ISEGRIM doesn't include Europe or Syria so it may not be of help, FYI.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 3813607, member: 82322"]I consider a cheap mystery coin to be the best possible outcome. Why spend $5k so the inside of my safety deposit box can enjoy an aureus from known dies? Here is one I have been enjoying for over a year. I posted this before, and don't expect answers. [ATTACH=full]1016473[/ATTACH] Unknown. 29mm, 13.85g Obv: uncertain inscription ????ΓΙΟ - ???Ο?MA????? ; Bust right (Maximinus?) Rev: ...Π ΟΛƐΙΤωΝ; Nude Man (Herakes?) standing left, club (?) in right hand, left hand raised (holding scepter?) Countermark: Є (Epsilon) in circle (mark of value 5?). Howgego 802; cf Howgego 803-806. I thought of this guy because your guy is also nude. Most mythical figures are clothed on coins. Only a few go nude: [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4798417']Dionysos[/URL], [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=299813']Zeus[/URL], [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=175640']Apollo[/URL], [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=533870']Poseidon[/URL], [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1943579']“Athlete”[/URL], and [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4033444']Perseus[/URL], Harpocrates, Marsyas. If the figure is holding a club it is Herakles but I am only 90% sure I see a club. I found depictions of Apollo with his arm in my pose but never nude -- he is always in a short cloak ('chalmys'). For me, inscription probably means this comes from a city whose name ends in "...polis". Which means a lot of cities! I don't want to derail the discussion of your coin by talking about mine. On yours I thought I saw two ribbons coming off the body to the left. You suggest "chalmys", which is different than nude. ISEGRIM doesn't include Europe or Syria so it may not be of help, FYI.[/QUOTE]
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