Roman Provincial Coin ID Help pt 2

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Obone, Jan 16, 2021.

  1. Obone

    Obone Well-Known Member

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm really hesitant to have two ID posts at once, but after the enormous help on the other post, I would really appreciate any help with IDing these two. I'm usually pretty good at identifying roman imperial coins, but when it comes to provincial coins, I'm pretty bad. The bronze coin with the eagle almost looks like the later Alexandrian tetradrachms, but in bronze so perhaps counterfeit?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated! The pics aren't the best, there the best I have to work with at the moment.
    Thanks in advance!

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  3. Obone

    Obone Well-Known Member

    I seem to have found an example for the type with the two wrestlers, same as this type:
    Any idea on emperor?
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  4. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    The emperor looks like Elagabalus, AD 218-222.
  5. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    The bottom photo looks like an imitation or fantasy of a Roman-Syrian Tetradrachm.
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  6. gsimonel

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    Here's another example of the first coin:

    "Roman Provincial
    Syria, Seleucis and Pieria. Laodicea ad Mare. Elagabalus. A.D. 218-222. AE 18 (18.32 mm, 5.33 g, 12 h). IMP C M AVR ANTONINVS, Radiate bust right, with slight drapery / LAVDICEON // ΔЄ, Herakles and Dionysus, both nude, grappling with one another like wrestlers; Herakles, on left, has a muscular body and is bearded, his club behind him in left field; Dionysus, on right, has long hair gathered in a bun; his thyrsos with knobbed ends is behind him in right field. SNG Hunterian 3224; Cf. BMC 105-8 var. (legend); Cf. SNG Copenhagen 373."

    Boy, they really read a lot into the reverse imagery, didn't they?
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