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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2836543, member: 56859"]The tally is done (drumroll)... the participating members of CoinTalk have shown <b>215</b> cities of the approximately <b>679</b> ancient cities which had their own coins during times of Roman rule or oversight. That number is highly subjective-- determining what is and what isn't a "Roman provincial coin" was much harder than expected!</p><p><br /></p><p>In general, I took cues from <a href="http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/intro/whatisrpc/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/intro/whatisrpc/" rel="nofollow">RPC Online</a>, with a pinch of collector bias <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Inclusion criteria:</p><ul> <li>Produced in Roman times (Republican through Imperial) in or for a city under some degree of Roman control or agreement;</li> <li>Non-Latin legends (there may be exceptions)</li> <li>Not just a close copy of a Rome-struck Imperial coin struck at a branch mint</li> </ul><p>There were many instances in which I wasn't sure how to proceed. For instance, nomes coinage of Egypt. Dattari's book lists a ton of nomes, but those are districts rather than cities. Also, it seems most likely that those "nomes" coins were struck in Alexandria. I went ahead and added the long list of nomes to the spreadsheet although maybe they don't really belong there. The reverse problem is appears for some issues of Severus Alexander and his family. The style of some of those Egyptian tetradrachms suggests Rome as the site of manufacture although in every other respect they are like other Alexandrian tetradrachms of the period.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some of the cities may be repeated in the spreadsheet. Alliances were made, hyphens used, and generally those cities just didn't hold their names and borders steady for my 21st century convenience <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. The spreadsheet ended up many more entries than on the <a href="http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/orter.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/orter.htm" rel="nofollow">source list</a>. When a specific mint city wasn't known, I repeated the region name with "uncertain mint". I did the best I could and am certainly open to corrections and improvements. </p><p><br /></p><p>There have been some wondrous coins in this thread <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Can you imagine amassing almost 700 different cities? What an undertaking that would be! [USER=71599]@ancientone[/USER] appears to be heading that direction. His coins make up the overall majority of those posted in the thread as well as the majority of one-example-only cities. Bravo, [USER=71599]@ancientone[/USER]!</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2tZfrXnmQZcb9XAQKHUQCTLOzFUsKeHfHJBfowiAwc/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2tZfrXnmQZcb9XAQKHUQCTLOzFUsKeHfHJBfowiAwc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">Updated spreadsheet, alphabetical by city</a>. Note that if we showed a city's coin, I put the number "1" in the first column rather than maintaining a count of how many examples were shown. That's because I don't know how to do an automated tally. The "count" function on GoogleDocs didn't work as I expected so I had to resort to the "sum" function <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the OP I linked two versions of the spreadsheet: the one re-linked above (cities in by alphabet) and one in the traditional order of listing by regions. Forget about that second sheet. It was too difficult to sort it that way (I'm a spreadsheet novice). That sheet will be deleted.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can copy the alphabetical spreadsheet to your own database program and manipulate it as you see fit.</p><p><br /></p><p>...</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><span style="color: #0000ff"><b>Thank you</b> to all who participated and commented, and please continue to add any "new" cities you may acquire in the future. I'll continue to update the spreadsheet with your additions and corrections. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> This thread and the spreadsheet will remain a work in progress.</span></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2836543, member: 56859"]The tally is done (drumroll)... the participating members of CoinTalk have shown [B]215[/B] cities of the approximately [B]679[/B] ancient cities which had their own coins during times of Roman rule or oversight. That number is highly subjective-- determining what is and what isn't a "Roman provincial coin" was much harder than expected! In general, I took cues from [URL='http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/intro/whatisrpc/']RPC Online[/URL], with a pinch of collector bias :D. Inclusion criteria: [LIST] [*]Produced in Roman times (Republican through Imperial) in or for a city under some degree of Roman control or agreement; [*]Non-Latin legends (there may be exceptions) [*]Not just a close copy of a Rome-struck Imperial coin struck at a branch mint [/LIST] There were many instances in which I wasn't sure how to proceed. For instance, nomes coinage of Egypt. Dattari's book lists a ton of nomes, but those are districts rather than cities. Also, it seems most likely that those "nomes" coins were struck in Alexandria. I went ahead and added the long list of nomes to the spreadsheet although maybe they don't really belong there. The reverse problem is appears for some issues of Severus Alexander and his family. The style of some of those Egyptian tetradrachms suggests Rome as the site of manufacture although in every other respect they are like other Alexandrian tetradrachms of the period. Some of the cities may be repeated in the spreadsheet. Alliances were made, hyphens used, and generally those cities just didn't hold their names and borders steady for my 21st century convenience :D. The spreadsheet ended up many more entries than on the [URL='http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/orter.htm']source list[/URL]. When a specific mint city wasn't known, I repeated the region name with "uncertain mint". I did the best I could and am certainly open to corrections and improvements. There have been some wondrous coins in this thread :). Can you imagine amassing almost 700 different cities? What an undertaking that would be! [USER=71599]@ancientone[/USER] appears to be heading that direction. His coins make up the overall majority of those posted in the thread as well as the majority of one-example-only cities. Bravo, [USER=71599]@ancientone[/USER]! [URL='https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2tZfrXnmQZcb9XAQKHUQCTLOzFUsKeHfHJBfowiAwc/edit?usp=sharing']Updated spreadsheet, alphabetical by city[/URL]. Note that if we showed a city's coin, I put the number "1" in the first column rather than maintaining a count of how many examples were shown. That's because I don't know how to do an automated tally. The "count" function on GoogleDocs didn't work as I expected so I had to resort to the "sum" function :oops:. In the OP I linked two versions of the spreadsheet: the one re-linked above (cities in by alphabet) and one in the traditional order of listing by regions. Forget about that second sheet. It was too difficult to sort it that way (I'm a spreadsheet novice). That sheet will be deleted. You can copy the alphabetical spreadsheet to your own database program and manipulate it as you see fit. ... [SIZE=5][COLOR=#0000ff][B]Thank you[/B] to all who participated and commented, and please continue to add any "new" cities you may acquire in the future. I'll continue to update the spreadsheet with your additions and corrections. :) This thread and the spreadsheet will remain a work in progress.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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