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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;brassnautilus, post: 2159288, member: 74300&quot;]Consequences of the germania loss was not limited to just destruction of the 3 legions (17, 18 and 19th), more significantly was that all roman fortification and garrisons were wiped out in the aftermath, so tiberius basically had to start from ground up again. Asprenas had 2 additional legions, plus a lot of scattered troops from the 3 lost legions that had made it to him, but was not able to hold the Rhine. </p><p><br /></p><p>Arminius orchestrated an ambush over a 10 mile dispersion of roman forces, which was almost an unthinkable task for 30,000 men. There are still ongoing debates over how exactly it had happened. Terrain and weather obviously played big parts, but even then, it wouldn&#039;t had been easy to conceal the concentration and deployment of such a large force.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally I felt the treatment of Varus (and Tiberius, for recommending Varus) was kinda unfair. Especially Tiberius, after he had gone through such difficult campaign in the balkans to prove himself. </p><p>Varus&#039; mistake was basically marching too close to Kalkriese. It was hardly a tactical blunder though, he just didn&#039;t anticipate that spies would had exposed that temporary situation/weakness to Arminius, and the later was so quick to act on it.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i58.tinypic.com/2r2myde.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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