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<p>[QUOTE="Suarez, post: 3589382, member: 99239"]"Nepotian was missed too! Does anyone have a Nepotian?"</p><p><br /></p><p>[Raises hand] :- )</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]958982[/ATTACH] </p><p>I scored this one earlier this year. I got lucky that several other Neppies were at auction so that removed a bit of the bidding heat.</p><p><br /></p><p>The definition of a usurper is somewhat fluid but, in the simplest terms, mine would be that the ruler was never recognized in Rome (for Roman coins obviously). By this account Nepotian wouldn't be, strictly speaking, a usurper since his rebellion sprang within Rome. If you think about it, the list of usurpers would be very long otherwise. This is of course debatable but some of the most famous Roman emperors won their throne by rebelling against a sitting emperor. Among these Vespasian, Septimius Severus, Diocletian and Constantine I. Others gained the throne without rebellion but through underhanded means like Nero, Philip I, Claudius II.... even the reigns of Hadrian and Caligula started under heavy suspicion of illegitimacy. The only common denominator among these guys is that they controlled Rome and the Senate had no choice but to ratify their claims.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reigns of Postumus through Tetricus, and that of Carausius and Allectus, were not technically usurpers. They were secessionists who led breakaway provinces which were later reabsorbed.</p><p><br /></p><p>In any case, here are a few more usurpers from my collection who were never recognized in the capital.</p><p><br /></p><p>Clodius Macer (rebelled in Carthage then slain by an assassin soon after)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]958989[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Jotapian and Pacatian who rebelled against Trajan Decius</p><p>[ATTACH=full]958991[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]958992[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Julian I who rebelled in 284 after the death of Carinus but was bested by Diocletian</p><p>[ATTACH=full]958993[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>And (stepping into the Byzantine age) Leontius I who rebelled against Zeno</p><p>[ATTACH=full]958996[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Rasiel[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Suarez, post: 3589382, member: 99239"]"Nepotian was missed too! Does anyone have a Nepotian?" [Raises hand] :- ) [ATTACH=full]958982[/ATTACH] I scored this one earlier this year. I got lucky that several other Neppies were at auction so that removed a bit of the bidding heat. The definition of a usurper is somewhat fluid but, in the simplest terms, mine would be that the ruler was never recognized in Rome (for Roman coins obviously). By this account Nepotian wouldn't be, strictly speaking, a usurper since his rebellion sprang within Rome. If you think about it, the list of usurpers would be very long otherwise. This is of course debatable but some of the most famous Roman emperors won their throne by rebelling against a sitting emperor. Among these Vespasian, Septimius Severus, Diocletian and Constantine I. Others gained the throne without rebellion but through underhanded means like Nero, Philip I, Claudius II.... even the reigns of Hadrian and Caligula started under heavy suspicion of illegitimacy. The only common denominator among these guys is that they controlled Rome and the Senate had no choice but to ratify their claims. The reigns of Postumus through Tetricus, and that of Carausius and Allectus, were not technically usurpers. They were secessionists who led breakaway provinces which were later reabsorbed. In any case, here are a few more usurpers from my collection who were never recognized in the capital. Clodius Macer (rebelled in Carthage then slain by an assassin soon after) [ATTACH=full]958989[/ATTACH] Jotapian and Pacatian who rebelled against Trajan Decius [ATTACH=full]958991[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]958992[/ATTACH] Julian I who rebelled in 284 after the death of Carinus but was bested by Diocletian [ATTACH=full]958993[/ATTACH] And (stepping into the Byzantine age) Leontius I who rebelled against Zeno [ATTACH=full]958996[/ATTACH] Rasiel[/QUOTE]
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