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<p>[QUOTE="Wolfstrike, post: 1357050, member: 35853"]Disclaimer: i'm not a coin collector, i know nothing about it</p><p><br /></p><p>a while back i see "Ancient Roman coins" on Ebay.</p><p>i'm not really a coin collector but this caught my interest because they come packed in dirt and the sellers claim they don't know what they are.</p><p><br /></p><p>i never believed the whole story.</p><p><br /></p><p>i had some extra cash and i decided to buy some at $1 per coin to see what i would get.</p><p><br /></p><p>i was cleaning coins and i was pretty happy with my purchase...i was thinking of buying more,</p><p>... until i cleaned a coin that was made in Germany in 1812...and to make matters worse...i got a coin made in Yugoslavia in 1973!</p><p><br /></p><p>questions come to mind.</p><p>1) why would i receive newer coins in a batch of "Ancient Roman coins" that "came directly form the excavators"?</p><p>2) if the dealer threw them in, or they got mixed in , why would the newer coins be encrusted with dirt?</p><p><br /></p><p>i sent these questions to the dealer and he acts like he doesn't know what i'm talking about.</p><p><br /></p><p>the guy is a "reputable" Ebay dealer with over 30,000 positive feedback and a 99% positive rating.</p><p>i read some of the negatives and not one person accused him of selling fake coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>so the story goes, people are digging up tons of these Roman coins from everywhere and only the ones that are silver ,gold, or super rare have any value.</p><p>"Roman soldiers buried their coins, went off to war, and many didn't return" ...sounds like a believable story.</p><p><br /></p><p>the reasons why i think these coins are fake...</p><p><br /></p><p>again,1) why would i receive newer coins in a batch of "Ancient Roman coins" that "came directly form the excavators"?</p><p>again, 2) if the dealer threw them in, or they got mixed in , why would the newer coins be encrusted with dirt?</p><p>3) i'm not an expert on how metal deteriorates, but some of my "Roman" coins have a perfect patina and badly worn features.</p><p>if the features rotted off, why would the patina be thick?</p><p>4) i received a 1973 coin from Yugoslavia, which just-so-happens to be near the region where Roman coins are faked</p><p>5) over 3 days i saw 4 similar coins to mine on Ebay, but when i went to website that posted fake coins, i instantly found at least 3 matches. (although the backs were different)</p><p>6) it's my understanding, that at least at some point during the Roman empire, Roman soldiers weren't paid in coins but were paid with salt. everyone had bags of coins they had to hide?</p><p>7) I've heard of stories of English people finding Roman coins on their property, and the government is all over them like white on rice. if Roman coins were so common, wouldn't the English government pick out the good stuff, or take photos and give the rest of the junk to the farmer?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>no doubt the dealers believe they are real.</p><p>let's just face this possibility things are worth what ever people think they're worth.</p><p><br /></p><p>i didn't post this to start any pointless argument i just would like to hear some logical answers[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Wolfstrike, post: 1357050, member: 35853"]Disclaimer: i'm not a coin collector, i know nothing about it a while back i see "Ancient Roman coins" on Ebay. i'm not really a coin collector but this caught my interest because they come packed in dirt and the sellers claim they don't know what they are. i never believed the whole story. i had some extra cash and i decided to buy some at $1 per coin to see what i would get. i was cleaning coins and i was pretty happy with my purchase...i was thinking of buying more, ... until i cleaned a coin that was made in Germany in 1812...and to make matters worse...i got a coin made in Yugoslavia in 1973! questions come to mind. 1) why would i receive newer coins in a batch of "Ancient Roman coins" that "came directly form the excavators"? 2) if the dealer threw them in, or they got mixed in , why would the newer coins be encrusted with dirt? i sent these questions to the dealer and he acts like he doesn't know what i'm talking about. the guy is a "reputable" Ebay dealer with over 30,000 positive feedback and a 99% positive rating. i read some of the negatives and not one person accused him of selling fake coins. so the story goes, people are digging up tons of these Roman coins from everywhere and only the ones that are silver ,gold, or super rare have any value. "Roman soldiers buried their coins, went off to war, and many didn't return" ...sounds like a believable story. the reasons why i think these coins are fake... again,1) why would i receive newer coins in a batch of "Ancient Roman coins" that "came directly form the excavators"? again, 2) if the dealer threw them in, or they got mixed in , why would the newer coins be encrusted with dirt? 3) i'm not an expert on how metal deteriorates, but some of my "Roman" coins have a perfect patina and badly worn features. if the features rotted off, why would the patina be thick? 4) i received a 1973 coin from Yugoslavia, which just-so-happens to be near the region where Roman coins are faked 5) over 3 days i saw 4 similar coins to mine on Ebay, but when i went to website that posted fake coins, i instantly found at least 3 matches. (although the backs were different) 6) it's my understanding, that at least at some point during the Roman empire, Roman soldiers weren't paid in coins but were paid with salt. everyone had bags of coins they had to hide? 7) I've heard of stories of English people finding Roman coins on their property, and the government is all over them like white on rice. if Roman coins were so common, wouldn't the English government pick out the good stuff, or take photos and give the rest of the junk to the farmer? no doubt the dealers believe they are real. let's just face this possibility things are worth what ever people think they're worth. i didn't post this to start any pointless argument i just would like to hear some logical answers[/QUOTE]
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