Roman Coins From Sri Lanka

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  1. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    My ancient coin collection is like 50% European (80:20 Roman and Greek), and the other half Asian (mostly South Indian). So when I came to know the ancient Tamil region and Sri lanka traded with the Romans, and that they even produced imitations of Roman coins, I knew I had to have one, as these coins will really bridge my East-West coinage!

    Back in the days, merchant ships from Rome would sail using the monsoon winds to South India and stay in the local Tamil kingdoms of the Pandyas, Cheras, and Cholas for months do trade goods, Romans would bring glassware, wine, gold and silver, and buy pepper, pearls, ivory, and it's even possible that they got the tigers from the tropical forests to take back to Rome!
    There was even a Temple for Augustus built in the Chera port city of Muziris, as described on the 4th century map of Tabula Peutingeriana.
    TabulaPeutingerianaMuziris.jpg
    So not only the Roman culture was familiar with the natives, but also their coinage, while there are extensive records of 1st century coinage, there isn't much of trade from the 2nd and 3rd century, but there is a resurgence from Constantine era, as even Julian the Apostate recieved ambassadors from the Pandya king around 361 AD.

    Here are some of them from the British museum!
    Roman aurei excavated from Tamil Nadu region
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    and a native imitative coin based on Gloria Exercitus
    Sri_Lankan_imitations_of_4th_century_Roman_coins_4th_to_8th_century_CE.jpg

    While I prefer a gold or even a silver imitative coin, my pocket isn't deep enough, so I had to look for the bronze issues, but it was not easy to hunt them down as well! few of the coins I saw online were prized exorbitantly, like this coin from Leu Numismatik!
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    Luckily I came across a couple of coins on Ma-shops from Ancient Coins Canada, after talking back and forth with the dealer Alexander Fishman, I got a deal for these lot of coins!
    These particular coins came from an unnamed hoard from Sri Lanka, they are dated around 5th century AD when Sri Lanka was ruled by the Pandu kings of the Pandya lineage, and must have been in circulation until the 7th century. These are crude and weighs between 0.8-1.5 grams, while the official coins weigh between 2-3 grams.

    First coin is based on the FEL TEMP REPARATIO aka fallen horseman type, weighing 0.89 grams, the reverse is mirrored, my guess is the engraver just copied the official coin in the die and when struck, the coin came out like this. I find the style on this coin simple yet elegant.
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    Second is a coin based on the Gloria Exercitus type, what I like about this coin is that the engraver's attempt to copy the Latin words! It weighs 1.55 g.
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    This one is curious, the reverse was probably copied from a cross, however we see a Swastika, an auspicious symbol for the Hindu/Buddhist religions. Here we see the locals taking in the Roman culture, however they knew to separate the religion! It weighs 0.82 g.
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    I also got an official Roman coin from one of the hoards, looks like Constans from the Heraclea mint! this coin has traveled nearly 5000 miles from the place of its origin! 1.73 g
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    And this coin smooth as a pebble that weighs 2.3 g!
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    Post anything relevant!
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2021
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  3. Matthew Kruse

    Matthew Kruse Young Numismatist

    No ancient coins from Sri Lanka here, but I feel this is relevant. :)

    1909 Ceylon 10 cents, Edward VII
    Its pretty beat up but still a cool coin. Only 1,000,000 minted. (.800) silver

    Sri Lanka was a British colony from 1815-1948 and it was called Ceylon.

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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    ANCIENT SRI LANKA

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    Sri Lanka,
    excavated in Anuradhapura
    Anonymous, 1st C. BCE
    PB 1/8 Lakshmi
    1.1g, 14.1mm x 7.8mm
    RARE
    OBV: Hindu Goddess Lakshmi facing. She is the goddess of wealth, fortune, and prosperity. She was a beauty and the wife of Vishnu
    REV: (blank)
    Comment: "Lakshmi (Sanskrit: लक्ष्मी, lakṣmī,ˈləkʂmiː) is the Hindu goddess of wealth, fortune and prosperity. She is the wife and shakti(energy) of Vishnu, a major god in Hinduism.[2] Lakshmi is also an important deity in Jainism and found in Jain temples.[3] Lakshmi was also a goddess of abundance and fortune for Buddhists, and was represented on the oldest surviving stupas and cave temples of Buddhism.[4][5] In Buddhist sects of Tibet, Nepal and southeast Asia, goddess Vasudharamirrors the characteristics and attributes of the Hindu goddess Lakshmi with minor iconographic differences." -Wikipedia.org
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  5. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Thanks, @JayAg47, for a very enlightening writeup and some coins to match (Congrats!)! It's a really cool gestalt to consider how vast the scale of cultural and economic interchange was in ancient times. (Yeah, the Aksumites were trading in India, and likely further east, from at least the 3rd c. CE, but they were already on the Horn of Africa.)
     
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  6. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Excellent write-up! Well done on acquiring some of these. I bought mine back in 2015, and has been a fun little oddity to share with my students:

    01-SL-Anon-AE-RI-01.jpg Indo-Roman
    Anonymous 5th C. A.D.
    AE Naimana Type, 13.12mm x 0.7 grams
    Obv.: Bust right, with dots representing legend
    Rev.: Cross within wreath
    Note: An imitation of Roman coinage
     
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  7. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

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    sold for only $80 less than a lot of 400 of them lol,,
    maybe it was even in the lot..
     
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  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Very nice write-up. I definitely learned something new. And you know, it's hard to teach old dogs new tricks.
     
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  9. singig

    singig Well-Known Member

    Very interesting presentation and coins.
    This is my only coin from the region , it came in a lot of roman coins.
    I took me a long period to identify it.

    British India , Madras Presidency , Silver Double Fanam(1764-1802).KM#308
    Obv: single standing deity Vishnu,
    Rev: interlocking letters 'C' presumed to be for King Charles II
    9 mm/ 1.6g
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  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I'm sorry to have missed this thread from months ago. I'm very interested in these coins too, and was also flabbergasted by that sale result in Leu. :D It's very cool that you have an original Roman example that came from an Indian hoard!

    Here's my Indian imitation of a Tiberius denarius:
    indian tiberius.jpg
    @dougsmit has an excellent one of these, with a much more abstract bust.

    I bought a small group of the later ones, found in Tamil Nadu state, from Steve Album. Here are two I kept, one the GLORIA EXERCITVS type, and the other I think must be based on a VOTA wreath type, though it could also be a purely local invention. I find it interesting that some of the busts are quite Roman looking (like the first one below) while others (including the second one below) have a much more Indian flavour.
    india lrb soldiers.jpg
    india lrb sun.jpg
     
  11. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    That's a cool looking denarius!
    Regarding your second bronze imitations, it reminds me of the Pallava potin coin from 6th century Northern Tamil Nadu, their coin show bull and the wheel of Dharmachakra aka circle of Karma!
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    I guess similar to how they changed the cross to swastika, they also replaced the Roman laurel wreath with their holy symbol!
     
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  12. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    Excellent write-up !
    Don't you think the Gloria Exercitus imitations imitate the one-standard version, rather than the two-standards?
     
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  13. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    I've never noticed that, but I doubt the local die makers cared about Roman standards given there are imitations with both single (Leu specimen) and double standards (British Museum specimen), since they might've just copied whatever follis they had at hand!
     
  14. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Wow, that is so cool!! I had off-handedly wondered if there was any connection with the wheel depicted on the modern Indian flag, but didn't know enough about the symbolism. Looking at your coin and on acsearch, I think the design similarity can't be a coincidence, especially given that the Pallavas probably date back to when these Roman imitations were being produced. Thank you!!

    Here's my only coin of the Pallavas, dated by the seller to the early 7th century, with a bull like yours on the obverse, but a different design on the reverse:
    pallavas.jpg
    (Any idea what the reverse signifies?)
     
  15. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    That's really abstract, but I remember reading a description of a lotus design.
     
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