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<p>[QUOTE="Tejas, post: 8119110, member: 84905"]Great post from 2009! I agree, the Varus battle has implications that are felt even today, over 2000 years later.</p><p>I don't agree, however, that Waterloo or the landing of allied forces in Normandy had the same significance. Napoleon was defeated in 1812 in Russia and most thoroughly in 1813 at Leipzig. His comeback in 1815 was doomed from the start, even if he had somehow won at Waterloo he would have been stopped soon afterwards.</p><p>Nazi Germany was not defeated in the west, but in the east. All the fighting in the west pales in comparison to the battles that were fought in the east. Even if Hollywood has manged to create a different perception, and without wanting to belittle the efforts of the allied forces, it was the Red Army that bore the brunt of the war.</p><p>So instead of Waterloo and the Normandy landing, a better comparison to the Varus battle would have been the Völkerschlacht at Leipzig and the Battles of Stalingrad or Kursk.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Tejas, post: 8119110, member: 84905"]Great post from 2009! I agree, the Varus battle has implications that are felt even today, over 2000 years later. I don't agree, however, that Waterloo or the landing of allied forces in Normandy had the same significance. Napoleon was defeated in 1812 in Russia and most thoroughly in 1813 at Leipzig. His comeback in 1815 was doomed from the start, even if he had somehow won at Waterloo he would have been stopped soon afterwards. Nazi Germany was not defeated in the west, but in the east. All the fighting in the west pales in comparison to the battles that were fought in the east. Even if Hollywood has manged to create a different perception, and without wanting to belittle the efforts of the allied forces, it was the Red Army that bore the brunt of the war. So instead of Waterloo and the Normandy landing, a better comparison to the Varus battle would have been the Völkerschlacht at Leipzig and the Battles of Stalingrad or Kursk.[/QUOTE]
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