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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3999195, member: 56859"]The shape or radius of the edge profile varies quite a bit. Upon casual recollection I thought the smaller bronze denominations tended to have more of a bevel than radius edge profile but looking through my coins and other online examples there really isn't any true pattern or meaning to the variety of edge shapes/curvatures.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't have any side shots handy but you can get a sense of the flan profile variations from the assortment of Roman Egyptian bronzes below.</p><p><br /></p><p>A drachm with a very large edge profile radius:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/hadriandrachm-nilus-e1016-16-rt-jpg.658081/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Hadrian drachm / Nilus seated left, holding reed, crocodile below right. Emmett 1016, RY16.</p><p><br /></p><p>Drachm with more beveled/less round edge profile:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/egyptalex-hadriandrachm-isisphariapharos-forvmimages_edited-1-jpg.383864/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian</b></p><p><b>year 18, CE 133/4</b></p><p>Æ drachm, 32 mm, 23.3 gm</p><p>Obv: AYT KAIC TPAIAN A∆PIANOC CEB, laureate and draped bust right</p><p>Rev: Isis Pharia right holding a billowing sail with both hands and left foot, sailing toward the Lighthouse of Pharos, which is surmounted by a statue and two Tritons, each blowing a buccinum (sea shell trumpet); L IH (year 18) above center</p><p>Ref: Emmett 1002(18), R1</p><p><br /></p><p>Drachm with a somewhat rounded bevel:</p><p><b><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/ap-isisasmotherintemple-jpg.661020/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></b></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius</b></p><p>AE drachm, RY 8</p><p>Obv: laureate bust right</p><p>Rev: Isis seated right on throne, nursing the infant Harpokrates, all within arched temple with solar disc and uraeus on pediment; L-H</p><p>Ref: Dattari 3044; Emmett 1587.8, R4</p><p><i>Ex Robert L. Grover Collection of Roman-Egyptian Coinage, previously held by the Art Institute of Chicago</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Diobol with a edge profile more beveled than curved:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/domitianagathodaemononhorse-rt-jpg.759269/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Domitian.</b> Regnal year 10, CE 90/91. Æ diobol (25mm, 10.86 g, 12h). AVT KAICAP ΔΟ ΜΙΤ CEB ΓΕΡΜ, laureate head right / Agathodaemon serpent, wearing the skhent crown (emblematic of upper and lower Egypt), on horseback galloping left; L I (date) below. Köln –; Dattari (Savio) –; K&G 24.109; RPC II 2585; SNG Copenhagen 214; Emmett 277.10 (R5).</p><p><br /></p><p>Diobol with a somewhat rounded/curved edge profile:</p><p><img src="https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ae43f8_44c4e46b9df34b8b91de3f509ca39f2a~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1000,h_625,al_c,q_90/ae43f8_44c4e46b9df34b8b91de3f509ca39f2a~mv2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Vespasian</b></p><p>year 4, CE 71/2</p><p>diobol?, 25.4 mm, 5.45 gm</p><p>Obv: AVTOKKAIΣΣEBAOVEΣΠAΣIANOV; laureate head right</p><p>Rev: bust of Isis left; LΔ in right field</p><p>Ref: Emmett 217.4 (diobol)</p><p><br /></p><p>Diobol with a roundish bevel edge profile:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/nerodiobol-dattari-vase-e153-jpg.726813/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Nero</b></p><p>Regnal year 14 (CE 67/8)</p><p>AE diobol; 27 mm, 10.9 gm</p><p>Obv: NEPΩKΛAVK[AIΣΣEBΓEPA]; laureate head right</p><p>Rev: L - IΔ; "vase" (Emmett), or "oinochoe" per others (others are probably correct)</p><p>Ref: Dattari-Savio Pl. 1, 2 (<i>this coin</i>); Dattari cf 286; RPC 5322; Emmett 153.14; Poole (BM, 1892) cf 188?</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/more-to-this-than-meets-the-eye.309276/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/more-to-this-than-meets-the-eye.309276/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/more-to-this-than-meets-the-eye.309276/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>A rather rounded edge profile obol:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/apisphinxobol-e1782-20-unlistedyear-rt-jpg.790997/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius</b></p><p>year 20, CE 156/7</p><p>AE obol, 18 mm, 4.36 gm</p><p>Obv: laureate head right</p><p>Rev: sphinx crouched/reclining left; L K above</p><p>Ref: Emmett 1782.20 (unlisted reverse for year 20); unlisted in Geissen and Dattari[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3999195, member: 56859"]The shape or radius of the edge profile varies quite a bit. Upon casual recollection I thought the smaller bronze denominations tended to have more of a bevel than radius edge profile but looking through my coins and other online examples there really isn't any true pattern or meaning to the variety of edge shapes/curvatures. I don't have any side shots handy but you can get a sense of the flan profile variations from the assortment of Roman Egyptian bronzes below. A drachm with a very large edge profile radius: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/hadriandrachm-nilus-e1016-16-rt-jpg.658081/[/IMG] Hadrian drachm / Nilus seated left, holding reed, crocodile below right. Emmett 1016, RY16. Drachm with more beveled/less round edge profile: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/egyptalex-hadriandrachm-isisphariapharos-forvmimages_edited-1-jpg.383864/[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian year 18, CE 133/4[/B] Æ drachm, 32 mm, 23.3 gm Obv: AYT KAIC TPAIAN A∆PIANOC CEB, laureate and draped bust right Rev: Isis Pharia right holding a billowing sail with both hands and left foot, sailing toward the Lighthouse of Pharos, which is surmounted by a statue and two Tritons, each blowing a buccinum (sea shell trumpet); L IH (year 18) above center Ref: Emmett 1002(18), R1 Drachm with a somewhat rounded bevel: [B][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/ap-isisasmotherintemple-jpg.661020/[/IMG] EGYPT, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius[/B] AE drachm, RY 8 Obv: laureate bust right Rev: Isis seated right on throne, nursing the infant Harpokrates, all within arched temple with solar disc and uraeus on pediment; L-H Ref: Dattari 3044; Emmett 1587.8, R4 [I]Ex Robert L. Grover Collection of Roman-Egyptian Coinage, previously held by the Art Institute of Chicago[/I] Diobol with a edge profile more beveled than curved: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/domitianagathodaemononhorse-rt-jpg.759269/[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Domitian.[/B] Regnal year 10, CE 90/91. Æ diobol (25mm, 10.86 g, 12h). AVT KAICAP ΔΟ ΜΙΤ CEB ΓΕΡΜ, laureate head right / Agathodaemon serpent, wearing the skhent crown (emblematic of upper and lower Egypt), on horseback galloping left; L I (date) below. Köln –; Dattari (Savio) –; K&G 24.109; RPC II 2585; SNG Copenhagen 214; Emmett 277.10 (R5). Diobol with a somewhat rounded/curved edge profile: [IMG]https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ae43f8_44c4e46b9df34b8b91de3f509ca39f2a~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1000,h_625,al_c,q_90/ae43f8_44c4e46b9df34b8b91de3f509ca39f2a~mv2.jpg[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Vespasian[/B] year 4, CE 71/2 diobol?, 25.4 mm, 5.45 gm Obv: AVTOKKAIΣΣEBAOVEΣΠAΣIANOV; laureate head right Rev: bust of Isis left; LΔ in right field Ref: Emmett 217.4 (diobol) Diobol with a roundish bevel edge profile: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/nerodiobol-dattari-vase-e153-jpg.726813/[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Nero[/B] Regnal year 14 (CE 67/8) AE diobol; 27 mm, 10.9 gm Obv: NEPΩKΛAVK[AIΣΣEBΓEPA]; laureate head right Rev: L - IΔ; "vase" (Emmett), or "oinochoe" per others (others are probably correct) Ref: Dattari-Savio Pl. 1, 2 ([I]this coin[/I]); Dattari cf 286; RPC 5322; Emmett 153.14; Poole (BM, 1892) cf 188? [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/more-to-this-than-meets-the-eye.309276/[/URL] A rather rounded edge profile obol: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/apisphinxobol-e1782-20-unlistedyear-rt-jpg.790997/[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius[/B] year 20, CE 156/7 AE obol, 18 mm, 4.36 gm Obv: laureate head right Rev: sphinx crouched/reclining left; L K above Ref: Emmett 1782.20 (unlisted reverse for year 20); unlisted in Geissen and Dattari[/QUOTE]
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