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<p>[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 7903195, member: 110226"]"As is" literally means what you see is what you get, no returns, period. That's why it is very important to do your homework before bidding. So, if a coin has a condition issue, such as tooling or smoothing, that is the way things are with these group lots. The same is true for the fake follis. I am sure Roma recognized it, as it is quite well known, but included it in the lot with some other nicer, genuine folles to off-set its presence. That's why I focused on the Justinian I folles from Antioch and the other coins in this lot. Bidders need to know what they are looking at and bid accordingly. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, in this case there were only 6 coins, each with the obverse and reverse displayed. Other group lots can have 50 or 100 coins usually shown as a pile. Obviously the auction house is not going to photograph each coin. In that situation, you need to gauge the bid based on the type of coins, such as late Roman bronzes, on the price a typical coin, in average condition, brings in the open market, plus some discount percentage, since you really don't know what is within the pile. I've never placed bids on lots that large - too much of risk of getting a pile of coins that are pretty bad - corroded, worn, or otherwise damaged. Some collectors have luck with these really large lots, but they are a gamble. </p><p><br /></p><p>I've had pretty good success buying group lots in the past, although I don't do this on a regular basis. I imagine savvy dealers do. My greatest success, and one that has provided hours of research and pleasure has been with the Byzantine bronze group lots. Lots of interesting types in them, and the price, when averaged out, is lower than what the coins would cost me individually on MA Shops, Vcoins or eBay, generally speaking.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 7903195, member: 110226"]"As is" literally means what you see is what you get, no returns, period. That's why it is very important to do your homework before bidding. So, if a coin has a condition issue, such as tooling or smoothing, that is the way things are with these group lots. The same is true for the fake follis. I am sure Roma recognized it, as it is quite well known, but included it in the lot with some other nicer, genuine folles to off-set its presence. That's why I focused on the Justinian I folles from Antioch and the other coins in this lot. Bidders need to know what they are looking at and bid accordingly. Now, in this case there were only 6 coins, each with the obverse and reverse displayed. Other group lots can have 50 or 100 coins usually shown as a pile. Obviously the auction house is not going to photograph each coin. In that situation, you need to gauge the bid based on the type of coins, such as late Roman bronzes, on the price a typical coin, in average condition, brings in the open market, plus some discount percentage, since you really don't know what is within the pile. I've never placed bids on lots that large - too much of risk of getting a pile of coins that are pretty bad - corroded, worn, or otherwise damaged. Some collectors have luck with these really large lots, but they are a gamble. I've had pretty good success buying group lots in the past, although I don't do this on a regular basis. I imagine savvy dealers do. My greatest success, and one that has provided hours of research and pleasure has been with the Byzantine bronze group lots. Lots of interesting types in them, and the price, when averaged out, is lower than what the coins would cost me individually on MA Shops, Vcoins or eBay, generally speaking.[/QUOTE]
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