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<p>[QUOTE="rrdenarius, post: 3526766, member: 75525"]I saw this coin offered in a recent auction and it haunted me. It is a great example of a cast coin: large (at 204 grams it is considered smallish), well cast (there are not a lot of features on this coin, but they are all there), good eye appeal, not much wear or environmental damage and old (Crawford says 265 to 243 BC and Vecchi says a bit later about 230 BC). The coin arrived this week and looks as good in hand as I had hoped.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]937284[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]937285[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]937286[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Republican AE Cast As, Roma/Wheel series, Rome, c. 265-242 BC.</p><p>Obv - Head of Roma right, wearing Phrygian helmet with pinnate crest; behind, mark of value I, set horizontally.</p><p>Rev - Six-spoked wheel; between two spokes, I.</p><p><br /></p><p>References, I have several for cast bronze.</p><p>Cr, RRC 24/3 265 to 242 BC; wt std = 270 grams</p><p>Gr, BMCRR -</p><p>RSC / Bab - I could not find the coin in Babelon. </p><p>BMC, Italy pg 53, #2, note I do not have this book</p><p>T&V 31 269 to 240 BC</p><p>Vecchi ICC 66 230 BC; Rome; wt std 270 grams</p><p>Syd, CRR 59 8 – extremely rare</p><p>Syd, AG 86 pl 11, #4</p><p>Syd collection 112</p><p>Sear, RCV 525</p><p>HN Italy 326.</p><p>Haeb. pl. 24,4-10; average weight of 44 examples = 271.31</p><p>Garrucci T. XXXIX, #3</p><p>Kircheriano T. VIII, #2</p><p><br /></p><p>204.48 grams</p><p>66.0 mm</p><p>12 H </p><p>RR.</p><p>A light example. Very rare. Lovely earthen emerald green patina. Good VF/About EF.</p><p><br /></p><p>Before I bought this coin, I did an internet search. I found several examples, 14. That is a lot for a coin listed as extremely rare. The weight data from internet searches is lower than the data from Haeberline. There were only two recent coins above Haeberline's average and five below his minimum.</p><p><br /></p><p>Data Internet Haeberline</p><p>Weight, mine 204.4 </p><p>Weight - max 282.2 307.7</p><p>Weight - min 204.4 228.2</p><p>Weight - avg 239.7 271</p><p>Weight - st dev 23.3</p><p>Number 14 44</p><p>Diameter - max 66</p><p>Diameter - max 66.0</p><p>Diameter - min 60.0</p><p>Diameter - avg 61.8</p><p>Diameter - st dev 2.2</p><p><br /></p><p>Grade, eem gVF </p><p>Grade, seller gVF / EF</p><p>Centering well centered</p><p>Strike nice casting with good features</p><p>Flan flaws none</p><p>Style typical</p><p>Patination I see brown, seller said emerald green</p><p><br /></p><p>Post your big wheels.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="rrdenarius, post: 3526766, member: 75525"]I saw this coin offered in a recent auction and it haunted me. It is a great example of a cast coin: large (at 204 grams it is considered smallish), well cast (there are not a lot of features on this coin, but they are all there), good eye appeal, not much wear or environmental damage and old (Crawford says 265 to 243 BC and Vecchi says a bit later about 230 BC). The coin arrived this week and looks as good in hand as I had hoped. [ATTACH=full]937284[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]937285[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]937286[/ATTACH] Roman Republican AE Cast As, Roma/Wheel series, Rome, c. 265-242 BC. Obv - Head of Roma right, wearing Phrygian helmet with pinnate crest; behind, mark of value I, set horizontally. Rev - Six-spoked wheel; between two spokes, I. References, I have several for cast bronze. Cr, RRC 24/3 265 to 242 BC; wt std = 270 grams Gr, BMCRR - RSC / Bab - I could not find the coin in Babelon. BMC, Italy pg 53, #2, note I do not have this book T&V 31 269 to 240 BC Vecchi ICC 66 230 BC; Rome; wt std 270 grams Syd, CRR 59 8 – extremely rare Syd, AG 86 pl 11, #4 Syd collection 112 Sear, RCV 525 HN Italy 326. Haeb. pl. 24,4-10; average weight of 44 examples = 271.31 Garrucci T. XXXIX, #3 Kircheriano T. VIII, #2 204.48 grams 66.0 mm 12 H RR. A light example. Very rare. Lovely earthen emerald green patina. Good VF/About EF. Before I bought this coin, I did an internet search. I found several examples, 14. That is a lot for a coin listed as extremely rare. The weight data from internet searches is lower than the data from Haeberline. There were only two recent coins above Haeberline's average and five below his minimum. Data Internet Haeberline Weight, mine 204.4 Weight - max 282.2 307.7 Weight - min 204.4 228.2 Weight - avg 239.7 271 Weight - st dev 23.3 Number 14 44 Diameter - max 66 Diameter - max 66.0 Diameter - min 60.0 Diameter - avg 61.8 Diameter - st dev 2.2 Grade, eem gVF Grade, seller gVF / EF Centering well centered Strike nice casting with good features Flan flaws none Style typical Patination I see brown, seller said emerald green Post your big wheels.[/QUOTE]
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