Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Roma Numismatics Auction April 7th
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 2380655, member: 39084"]This is an interesting thread and while there are reasonable arguments on both sides, I personally find myself mostly in agreement with Doug and TIF. Let me attempt to explain my view a little further.</p><p><br /></p><p>Suppose Collector #1 notes a particular coin or set of coins in an upcoming auction and starts a thread or posts about his/her interest in those coins. Further assume that this collector is known to be both aggressive and financially comfortable, or maybe he/she announces that "I'm going to win these coins no matter how much I have to spend."</p><p><br /></p><p>So now Collector #2, who also likes some of the coins, starts thinking "I'm not going to be able to outbid Collector #1 under any circumstances." </p><p><br /></p><p>There are at least three possible scenarios on auction day: </p><p><br /></p><p>(1) Collector #2 doesn't even bother to bid, giving Collector #1 one less competitor, and #1 ends up paying less than he/she might have under normal circumstances. This also affects the seller, who is entitled to get whatever price the market will offer at the current time.</p><p><br /></p><p>(2) Collector #2 decides to spite Collector #1, and bids the coin(s) up to much more than general market availability would dictate that the coins were worth, thus costing #1 more than he/she would have paid.</p><p><br /></p><p>(3) Collector #2 follows procedure #2 above, and then is surprised when #1 suddenly stops bidding, resulting in Collector #2 being stuck with a (wanted) coin but at a much higher price than his/her budget can afford.</p><p><br /></p><p>This scenario is not as unlikely as one might think. Now, the free market economists and curmudgeons here will be thinking "Well, Collector #1 or Collector #2 got exactly what they deserved." But is that really the case? The marketplace didn't really act efficiently in this scenario -- it was skewed by possibly unreliable information that might not have been known to other collectors participating in the auction. Inefficient markets produce anomalous and unreliable results, and my personal preference is for all parties to a transaction to have all pertinent information that is generally and publicly available. I don't like manipulated transactions, and I see a high possibility of "gaming" the system through pre-announced intentions, whether or not these intentions are accurate and honest.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 2380655, member: 39084"]This is an interesting thread and while there are reasonable arguments on both sides, I personally find myself mostly in agreement with Doug and TIF. Let me attempt to explain my view a little further. Suppose Collector #1 notes a particular coin or set of coins in an upcoming auction and starts a thread or posts about his/her interest in those coins. Further assume that this collector is known to be both aggressive and financially comfortable, or maybe he/she announces that "I'm going to win these coins no matter how much I have to spend." So now Collector #2, who also likes some of the coins, starts thinking "I'm not going to be able to outbid Collector #1 under any circumstances." There are at least three possible scenarios on auction day: (1) Collector #2 doesn't even bother to bid, giving Collector #1 one less competitor, and #1 ends up paying less than he/she might have under normal circumstances. This also affects the seller, who is entitled to get whatever price the market will offer at the current time. (2) Collector #2 decides to spite Collector #1, and bids the coin(s) up to much more than general market availability would dictate that the coins were worth, thus costing #1 more than he/she would have paid. (3) Collector #2 follows procedure #2 above, and then is surprised when #1 suddenly stops bidding, resulting in Collector #2 being stuck with a (wanted) coin but at a much higher price than his/her budget can afford. This scenario is not as unlikely as one might think. Now, the free market economists and curmudgeons here will be thinking "Well, Collector #1 or Collector #2 got exactly what they deserved." But is that really the case? The marketplace didn't really act efficiently in this scenario -- it was skewed by possibly unreliable information that might not have been known to other collectors participating in the auction. Inefficient markets produce anomalous and unreliable results, and my personal preference is for all parties to a transaction to have all pertinent information that is generally and publicly available. I don't like manipulated transactions, and I see a high possibility of "gaming" the system through pre-announced intentions, whether or not these intentions are accurate and honest.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Roma Numismatics Auction April 7th
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...