Roll-searchers, post your results!

Discussion in 'Coin Roll Hunting' started by chicken_little, Oct 24, 2005.

  1. Kurisu

    Kurisu Well-Known Member

    It has been a bit quiet in this thread...
    I've been enjoying finds people are posting in their own threads too :woot:
    Hopefully folks are having lives, doing good stuff, enjoying some holiday time...

    The CRHing community is part of my family :p

    Random stuff from the last few weeks just for some holiday family fun...! :D

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  3. berto

    berto Well-Known Member

    Stopped at 4 banks today and gathered $100 in BWR halves and $3 loose...2, 40%ers in the loose and zilch in the BWRs.

    I'm satisfied!
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  4. Kurisu

    Kurisu Well-Known Member

  5. Going back in to re-check some of my rolls, and found this nice die crack! S20221228_0001.jpg S20221228_0002.jpg
     
  6. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    I had a surprising find at a bank today: 25 rolls of uncirculated dollar coins in still-sealed Danbury Mint containers.

    Each container (roll) contains 12 coins for a total of $300 in face value:

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    The teller said there was an additional $200 brought in of individual dollar coins in their own special display packaging but she had already sold them over the past few days.

    Presidents span from Washington up to Reagan (2007 - 2016).

    So now the question is are these worth more than face value being they are all uncirculated and in sealed containers? Are some presidents more rare or desirable than others in terms of mintage?

    If anyone can provide some insight that would be great.

    Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2022
  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Many of them are the later ones which were NIFC. If they carry a W mint mark like the label says, that should be worth more than face. Plus they seem UNC/MS. I would argue they are worth 2-3X over face.

    Lately I have just been picking up 2 rolls of quarters in my futile search for a W. I will usually get 8-12-15 to look at out of 80 but I have been striking out. I have now enlisted my GF to get me a couple rolls when she goes. Last time, I got 2 rolls of Otero Warren, so all I did was upgrade my coin folder coin with a better specimen. I haven't seen ANY Anna May Wong, although my CU is always way behind on the new issues as they get their coins from Loomis. Very often I have had good luck getting the brand new releases in change from Sprouts. I picked up 2 rolls today and there are 63 Anna May Wongs. Most look very good to the naked eye. (0-2 on W's.) And I am confidant I will get a nice specimen for my book. What is on tap for the 2023 quarters? Thank you.
     
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  8. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Gold dollars never were minted at west point.Well,besides the extremely rare (2000)strikes are the only time. But that technically didn't happen,the coins actually were minted at Philly but still have a(W) ,I agree with everything else.
     
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  9. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    Be sure to check all the Washington and Adams coins for missing or doubled edge lettering! The doubled lettering is only on the Adams coins, the missing lettering can be on both. They are known errors and are worth a lot more than face.
     
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  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Potty yes I didn't think they were minted at W. I was just looking at the tag in the photo which seemed to indicate they were.
     
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  11. Kurisu

    Kurisu Well-Known Member

    Looking up close at the image I see no W's on the edges...also all those rolls have been loaded with likely the rejects from a search...but you're honestly not likely to find anything better than you would in a fresh Loomis roll from that year.
    Danbury mint rolls were nothing better than what you would get a bank when those coins were released...Danbury Mint is a prey on the late night uninformed infomercial shoppers, unfortunately.
    Hopefully they left a W in there somewhere for you!
     
  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    They looked like great luster from the photo. From 2007-2011 they minted a lot of these. But after Garfield, and starting in 2012 Chester A. Arthur to 2020 GHW Bush, they were lower minted/NIFC. Reagan was the last one in 2016, but after Bush passed away, etc. So there's no Carter, Clinton, GWB, Obama or Trump. Jimmy Carter is 98 the oldest president ever.
    The low mintage/UNC ones are going to have value to collectors. Despite the Danbury scam, and besides, the poster got them at face value.

    Part B. So far despite the great luster, all the Anna May Wongs are scratched up. You cannot get coins from Loomis as the coin rolling machines just destroy them. I have about 40 to go, and I will take the best one I can find for my album.
     
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  13. Kurisu

    Kurisu Well-Known Member

    Had to share this! Today I went to two distant bank branches I haven't been to in years hoping for some extra last minute 2022 finds...

    At the first branch the teller says, "I only have one roll of halves today..."
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  14. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    I'm not sure what the W refers to on the labels but they all appear to have been minted in Philadelphia. In terms of being worth over face value, these 12-roll coins have some value over face and appear to sell in the $20 - $25 range when sold individually on eBay.

    However, a lot of 19 of these rolls sold on eBay yesterday for $559, which comes out to $29 a roll. It looks like someone preferred the convenience of buying various rolls together as one lot than individually. And most are the more common Washington - Garfield presidents, too.

    I just took a look at these two and there is no missing or doubled edge lettering, unfortunately.

    If they are rejects from a search then they are rejects from the Danbury Mint as all of them still have their seal and none appear to have been opened. They do have bag marks here and there so I'd say you're right about not finding anything better than what would have been found from a fresh Loomis roll from the year in which they were minted, however.

    Maybe they are predatory and maybe they're not. They do seem to have a following. If anything, the containers are of high quality and look to be a good way to keep the coins stored well and preserved. It is also nice you can clearly see in the rolls without having to open them.

    There needs to be some kind of regulatory oversight on the use of these machines as they are indeed destructive to coins. It is particularly unfortunate when you find an older coin that has been ruined by the automated rolling process.

    They are indeed all uncirculated and have very nice luster.

    These are the presidents that were found among the lot:

    1 George Washington 1789–97
    2 John Adams 1797–1801
    3 Thomas Jefferson 1801–09
    4 James Madison 1809–17
    6 John Quincy Adams 1825–29
    7 Andrew Jackson 1829–37
    8 Martin Van Buren 1837–41
    10 John Tyler 1841–45
    11 James K. Polk 1845–49
    12 Zachary Taylor 1849–50
    13 Millard Fillmore 1850–53
    15 James Buchanan 1857–61
    16 Abraham Lincoln 1861–65
    19 Rutherford B. Hayes 1877–81
    20 James A. Garfield 1881
    22 Grover Cleveland 1885–89
    23 Benjamin Harrison 1889–93
    25 William McKinley 1897–1901
    31 Herbert Hoover 1929–33
    33 Harry S. Truman 1945–53
    35 John F. Kennedy 1961–63
    36 Lyndon B. Johnson 1963–69
    37 Richard M. Nixon 1969–74
    38 Gerald R. Ford 1974–77
    40 Ronald Reagan 1981–89

    These are the ones that are missing:

    5 James Monroe 1817–25
    9 William Henry Harrison 1841
    14 Franklin Pierce 1853–57
    17 Andrew Johnson 1865–69
    18 Ulysses S. Grant 1869–77
    21 Chester A. Arthur 1881–85
    24 Grover Cleveland 1893–97
    26 Theodore Roosevelt 1901–09
    27 William Howard Taft 1909–13
    28 Woodrow Wilson 1913–21
    29 Warren G. Harding 1921–23
    30 Calvin Coolidge 1923–29
    32 Franklin D. Roosevelt 1933–45
    34 Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953–61
    41 George H.W. Bush 1989-93

    That is a stretch with presidents #26 - #30 missing from the lot. The teller said no rolls had been kept or sold to anyone else. I wonder if the redeemer kept some or if they just didn't buy any rolls from Danbury during the time when the missing presidents were issued.

    At any rate, this has turned out to be a very good find and would yield quite a return if I were to sell them (of which, I am undecided what I'll be doing with them just yet- either keeping them all, keeping just a few, or selling some or all as one lot).
     
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  15. Kurisu

    Kurisu Well-Known Member

    Here you go I'll make it simple...they are predatory.
    Most likely scenario is that they bought many mint bags and or rolls when the coins were released. They then put them in their fancy packaging.
    Here's how they marketed them...predatory? You decide...
    https://www.danburymint.com/product-2/presidential-dollar-rolls/8682-0255.html

    I'll add the fact that I've had a few of these rolls...and if you're very careful you can open them and reseal them without anyone knowing any better. Ever have to take a Goodwill sticker off a plastic item lol?

    So if no one messed with those too much, then you should have some MS beauties in there...I'd still say nice find! :happy:
     
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  16. Ben Jefferson

    Ben Jefferson Member

    Searched $100 box of nickels today. Found a few foreign coins, a silver, and PXL_20221231_213647338.jpg my first buffalo!
     
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  17. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    The Buffalo’s mintmark?
     
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  18. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    I see nothing on the page to indicate they are dubious or predatory. What I do see is a lot of well-detailed information for prospective buyers. And what I like with this company is, where the U.S. Mint failed to complete the series due to an archaic fear or apprehension of placing live persons on coinage, a great solution was developed: "The Danbury Mint offers specially commissioned presidential medals for the remaining 5 presidents to complete the top of the display."

    If they have previously come across as predatory to you due to their pricing, no pricing presently appears as it is a discontinued product.

    Maybe they've been opened, maybe they haven't. I see no indication of their having been opened and to me that is what counts. I'm sure there probably are some nice finds although I plan to keep them sealed as found for the time being, at least.

    I think you underestimate the interest and demand for these coins themselves. Look at what these 8-coin sets are selling for:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/362579877270 $24.95

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/362579877241 $29.95

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/362579877195 $24.95

    These are simply for raw coins with no affiliation from a third-party packaging or distribution company such as Danbury Mint.

    I do think it is great companies such as the Danbury Mint had the foresight to buy and acquire these coins in bulk when they were released by the U.S. Mint.

    Doing so has allowed these coins to be bought and enjoyed in the present day by collectors in pristine, uncirculated condition in ways that otherwise wouldn't have been possible were it not for their steadfast and valiant effort.
     
  19. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    Uh, those aren't sold prices. Check finished auctions and see what they actually sell for.
     
  20. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Yes, they are:

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    Clicking "282 sold" leads to: https://www.ebay.com/bin/purchaseHistory?item=362579877270.

    I've been using eBay since 1999. I am well aware of the difference between list prices and what items actually sell for.
     
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  21. Kurisu

    Kurisu Well-Known Member

    I hear you...and if you want that kind of money for these then you'll need to jump on it! Especially if you're convinced they've never been opened.

    Their payment plans, and what they're selling (and what you'll get) is 100% designed to prey on the infomercial folks. I'm happy for you if you're happy with them as a collection dump find!!! :woot:

    I'd be looking for specimens worth grading. See if you can spot a MS66 in there...
    A simple way to look at their coins...they have been handled. They are opened mint rolls and bags. Because the Danbury mint is not the U.S. Mint.
     
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