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<p>[QUOTE="iloveallcoins, post: 2930560, member: 91550"]You are absolutely right. That is why I made the post. These drops are idiotic to me because I see the sales of them day to day. Agree with me or disagree with me as you read though the thread I have cited sale prices and trending prices. I have also cited the sale of recent rarities. I know about them because I am very passionate about the series.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some reply to this thread and say oh now PCGS price guide is just high but have never actually bought any of the coins, or even appreciate the full strike designations. </p><p><br /></p><p>You can buy beautiful toned later date MS66 examples under $100 and I can understand why they would think that the FBL designation is not worth the premium....But that does not have anything to do with price guide values for the many that do care about strike rarities. </p><p><br /></p><p>Another example 1963 MS65FBL recently lowered to $1250 in this "inflated" price guide. I sure don't want to pay more due to the "artificial ceiling" placed by the price guide.....The only problem is that it is difficult to find one under $1400. Why? Why are these common, abundant "time to drop the price guide" coins not available for price guide if the price guide is correct? Further why are there only a few for sale? Maybe those that keep telling me how wrong I am can tell me why? I would be interested to know. </p><p><br /></p><p>Heritage realized prices for the 3 that sold the last few months are NGC MS65FBL 1560, PCGS MS65FBL 1500, PCGS MS65FBL 1320. Why lower the price to the inflated $1250 and how is that inflated? This is happening to MANY coins? The fact is these drops are artificial. PCGS is either finding the lowest auction prices to compare or just doing % drops across the board because they are too lazy to look at the already compiled data. YES I know the lower grades are selling for less but I am talking about rare dates only....Hence the title RIP to the investors and registry set collectors. </p><p><br /></p><p>If the 1963's are selling at no reserve sight unseen coins are selling for $1500 then the price guide should be no less then $2000 as a retail price to leave room for negotiation and dealer purchasing. It should also be noted that most MS65FBL 1963's are heavily die polished, marked up, and rarely appealing. So a nice would should bring an even greater premium. Those recently sold were definitely not appealing coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="iloveallcoins, post: 2930560, member: 91550"]You are absolutely right. That is why I made the post. These drops are idiotic to me because I see the sales of them day to day. Agree with me or disagree with me as you read though the thread I have cited sale prices and trending prices. I have also cited the sale of recent rarities. I know about them because I am very passionate about the series. Some reply to this thread and say oh now PCGS price guide is just high but have never actually bought any of the coins, or even appreciate the full strike designations. You can buy beautiful toned later date MS66 examples under $100 and I can understand why they would think that the FBL designation is not worth the premium....But that does not have anything to do with price guide values for the many that do care about strike rarities. Another example 1963 MS65FBL recently lowered to $1250 in this "inflated" price guide. I sure don't want to pay more due to the "artificial ceiling" placed by the price guide.....The only problem is that it is difficult to find one under $1400. Why? Why are these common, abundant "time to drop the price guide" coins not available for price guide if the price guide is correct? Further why are there only a few for sale? Maybe those that keep telling me how wrong I am can tell me why? I would be interested to know. Heritage realized prices for the 3 that sold the last few months are NGC MS65FBL 1560, PCGS MS65FBL 1500, PCGS MS65FBL 1320. Why lower the price to the inflated $1250 and how is that inflated? This is happening to MANY coins? The fact is these drops are artificial. PCGS is either finding the lowest auction prices to compare or just doing % drops across the board because they are too lazy to look at the already compiled data. YES I know the lower grades are selling for less but I am talking about rare dates only....Hence the title RIP to the investors and registry set collectors. If the 1963's are selling at no reserve sight unseen coins are selling for $1500 then the price guide should be no less then $2000 as a retail price to leave room for negotiation and dealer purchasing. It should also be noted that most MS65FBL 1963's are heavily die polished, marked up, and rarely appealing. So a nice would should bring an even greater premium. Those recently sold were definitely not appealing coins.[/QUOTE]
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