Right side up OR upside down

Just out of curiosity, if they were "minted in both alignments" as @offa the saxon says, would the label "rotated die" have any meaning? I'm thinking of the lettering on some "gold" dollar coins...my understanding is the orientation on them is random.

 

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Do you remember the ridiculous fiasco with "A Side/B Side" edge lettering on the Prez dollars? That was eventually determined that it should be properly considered random. However, those were coins, not medals. Medals are supposed to be struck in a specific way. The obverse and the reverse should be "up". So yes, the rotated die does have meaning.

 

Let me reiterate...it was claimed (@offa the saxon ) that Swiss 5 franc coins were minted with BOTH alignments. With that in mind, how would you differentiate between one that was minted with medal alignment vs one that was a 180 degree rotated die? I'll answer it...you couldn't.

 

Coins from 1981 and before are coin alignment, coins from 1982 and after are medal alignment. This is true for all Swiss coins from 1/2Fr and up.

 

Since you amended your original statement, you do that!

Knowing nothing about Swiss coinage, myself, it appears that Kentucky isn't completely right after all.

 

This from Wikipedia:



^ Coin alignment ^ ^ Medal alignment ^

 

I have yet to make up my mind...LOL

 

yup, I stand corrected. BTW, I didn't mean you couldn't answer it, I meant I didn't think it could be answered...drat, wrong again.

 

I'm confused. Does the OP have an error coin, or not?

 

Look at Krause and numista it lists both coin and medal alignments for Swiss 5 francs. I have one of each in my collection also so it’s hardly a claim more of a fact

 

No.

 

Nope. The 1989 1 Franc was minted in medal alignment, and the 1974 2 Francs was minted in coin alignment. Both are as they should be.

 

It IS a fact, but the question remains as to whether there was a time that they switched from coin orientation to medal orientation or vice versa or has it always been a mixed bag.

https://www.zumbo.ch/coins/ch/news1...ion of the,coin rotation to metallic rotation.

Swiss coin trivia
In the last issue of this newsletter, I was discussing the somehow confusing mint marks on the 1/2 Fr., 1 Fr. 1968 and 2 Fr. coins 1968-70. For the 5 Fr. coins, the situation is much clearer: all of them were minted in Bern, and they all bear the "B" mint mark, except for the 1970-85 issues. Since the introduction of the copper-nickel coin, there were only two other changes in appearance: In 1982, their orientation changed from coin rotation to metallic rotation. And from 1985 to 1993, the edge lettering was incuse.

 

"metallic" rotation? lol

 

I just quote em, I don't make em up...