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<p>[QUOTE="omahaorange, post: 1535098, member: 28199"]At first glance, I would tend to agree, but like GDJSMP says, there is no legal obligation on the part of the seller to refund the money. None of the "laws" cited apply in his case. If the OP was your average, everyday collector, I <i>might</i> tend to agree with the refund and be a little more sympathetic. From a business standpoint, you really should not rely on someone in the business to make money on a retail level to give good enough deals so you can make money, off him, at the retail level. So, I'm still siding with the seller in this instance. Keep in mind that not every one who sets up at a coin show to sell is an experienced and knowledgeable "dealer". I still believe the OP bought this coin raw with the intention of having it graded and reselling it for profit. It came back in a condition not conducive to generating that profit for the OP, in fact he's probably taking a loss. He apparently did not properly examine the coin (even though he had the opportunity to do so), instead taking the grade hand written on a flip as gospel. I have purchased numerous coins in flips where someone along the line wrote a grade on the flip, and subsequent buyers/sellers never changed the flip. So, he now wants the seller to refund his money based on fraud and or other illegal behavior, when in fact the OP simply gambled and lost. I believe the buyer, in this case (trying to play with the big boys) is solely responsible knowing what to look for when examining the coin in hand, and making his own determination as to the profit potential of said coin. This really isn't the seller's responsibility. I'd compare this situation more to sitting down to a poker game without understanding the rules, losing the hand, and then complain that you didn't know the rules and demand your money back. While it's nice to think a seller is responsible enough to tell us everything about the coins we buy, it's really unreasonable to expect that. How many posts have we read on here about educating the buyers to avoid being ripped off? I think the best advice for the OP, in this situation, is to indeed, consider it the cost of his education and find another seller to buy from.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="omahaorange, post: 1535098, member: 28199"]At first glance, I would tend to agree, but like GDJSMP says, there is no legal obligation on the part of the seller to refund the money. None of the "laws" cited apply in his case. If the OP was your average, everyday collector, I [I]might[/I] tend to agree with the refund and be a little more sympathetic. From a business standpoint, you really should not rely on someone in the business to make money on a retail level to give good enough deals so you can make money, off him, at the retail level. So, I'm still siding with the seller in this instance. Keep in mind that not every one who sets up at a coin show to sell is an experienced and knowledgeable "dealer". I still believe the OP bought this coin raw with the intention of having it graded and reselling it for profit. It came back in a condition not conducive to generating that profit for the OP, in fact he's probably taking a loss. He apparently did not properly examine the coin (even though he had the opportunity to do so), instead taking the grade hand written on a flip as gospel. I have purchased numerous coins in flips where someone along the line wrote a grade on the flip, and subsequent buyers/sellers never changed the flip. So, he now wants the seller to refund his money based on fraud and or other illegal behavior, when in fact the OP simply gambled and lost. I believe the buyer, in this case (trying to play with the big boys) is solely responsible knowing what to look for when examining the coin in hand, and making his own determination as to the profit potential of said coin. This really isn't the seller's responsibility. I'd compare this situation more to sitting down to a poker game without understanding the rules, losing the hand, and then complain that you didn't know the rules and demand your money back. While it's nice to think a seller is responsible enough to tell us everything about the coins we buy, it's really unreasonable to expect that. How many posts have we read on here about educating the buyers to avoid being ripped off? I think the best advice for the OP, in this situation, is to indeed, consider it the cost of his education and find another seller to buy from.[/QUOTE]
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