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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;omahaorange, post: 1533832, member: 28199&quot;]<blockquote><p><span style="color: #000000">The money making part aside, what warranty did the dealer give?&nbsp; A grade written on a flip is no guaranty that the coin in that flip will grade what is written on the outside. Check any of a number of &quot;Guess the Grade&quot; threads on this board, and you&#039;ll many different <b>opinions</b> of the grade of that particular coin.&nbsp; It is up to you to decide what a raw coin grades at.&nbsp; Unless the dealer gave you a COA or other written form stating &quot;I guaranty this coin is a Choice AU&quot;, you really do not have a leg to stand on.&nbsp; Good luck proving he <i><b>said</b></i> anything.&nbsp; Produce the flip, and his response will probably be &quot;I told him it might be AU, but I told him to judge for himself.&quot;&nbsp; He may even claim he bought the coin and flip that way, and just put it in his rack.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><br /></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #000000">Where, exactly, did you get this?&nbsp; Please cite your source.&nbsp; Otherwise, it&#039;s meaningless.&nbsp; If it comes from the same forum you quoted earlier, I still do not think that applies to your situation.&nbsp; And he stated it was AU, and it came back AU.&nbsp; The law you quote doesn&#039;t mention cleaned or not.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">That&#039;s another dealer.&nbsp; They&#039;re not all the same.&nbsp; For every good dealer willing to cater to your needs, there&#039;s another one who is simply in it for profit.&nbsp; That does not indicate the ones for profit are doing anything illegal.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">And in the other instance, you apparently were as well, in the fact that you took the written grade on the slip as gospel, and didn&#039;t bother to educate yourself and examine the coin before you handed over your money.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">So, he&#039;s not really worried about losing you as a customer.&nbsp; give that up and move on.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">This does not apply in this case, you viewed the coin in person, in your hand, at a coin show (unless I misread something else).&nbsp; And the grade in question wasn&#039;t assigned by a TPG when you bought the coin.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000">The bottom line is, you are accusing this seller of fraud, when there appears to be no fraudulent activity evident on the part of this seller.&nbsp; You had the opportunity to see and closely examine the coin.&nbsp; His opinion was that the coin would grade AU, it did, so no fraud there.&nbsp; You either missed the whizzing when you examined the coin, or didn&#039;t look at very closely.&nbsp; So apparently did he.&nbsp; But the bottom line is, <b>YOU bought the coin directly and personally from this guy</b>.&nbsp; You had the opportunity to see the coin in hand before you bought it.&nbsp; You did not get a certificate or a written warranty with the coin (again, a grade written on the flip, that may or may not have been written by this guy, is NOT a warranty).&nbsp; It did not meet your expectations, based on a conversation with a vendor and no thorough exam by you.&nbsp; While in a perfect world it would be nice to not have to pay for our mistakes, it happens.&nbsp; This whole discussion would be null and void had you done your part before purchasing the coin.&nbsp; It seems you didn&#039;t, and now you have to pay the price.&nbsp; You dropped the ball on the bourse floor.&nbsp; The fact that the dealer offered to refund you any money was a decent gesture on his part.&nbsp; He could have simply told you to beat it.&nbsp; You still haven&#039;t convinced me this guy is wrong.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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