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<p>[QUOTE="omahaorange, post: 1533497, member: 28199"]<span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">No, it's not. You seem to have a one-way attitude when it comes to this transaction. You want the dealer to be responsible for the loss, but are not willing to accept the responsibility for an apparent lack of knowledge in buying a coin that you examined (or should have) prior to making the purchase.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Bingo. And how did these collectors become seasoned? Experience. I'm sure they all got burned during the "seasoning". They chalk it up to a lesson learned. They don't come on an internet forum complaining.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Apples to oranges. Unscrupulous sellers on eBay used mail order, doctored or fuzzy pictures, bad written descriptions, or failure to send the merchandise. None of these factor into your situation. You had the coin in hand, had the magnification to closely examine it (or, maybe a rookie mistake not bringing a loupe to a coin show), had the opportunity to ask specific questions directly to the seller (has this coin been cleaned?, it looks like it's been whizzed) and hand the coin back if the answers to those questions were not to your satisfaction.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If this is not the dealer in question, then this statement is irrelevant. We all know some shady characters. Most of us avoid them.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I still think the case you cite is not the same. First of all, this was a large volume dealer. Are you implying the dealer in your case has "ripped off" thousands of customers. We really haven't established that he ripped you off yet.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Why complain to show managers? What was so unfair about this transaction? The dealer marked his flip as "AU". It came back "AU", details because of the whizzing. You had the opportunity to look at the coin, in hand, and ask the dealer if the marks you noticed were from cleaning or whizzing. Even if you did, and he said "No", you should have suspected (since in my scenario, you noticed suspicious marks and asked) this was a problem coin, and put your money back in your pocket and walked away.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm still siding with the dealer on this one. It still doesn't look like he did anything blatantly wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="omahaorange, post: 1533497, member: 28199"][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]No, it's not. You seem to have a one-way attitude when it comes to this transaction. You want the dealer to be responsible for the loss, but are not willing to accept the responsibility for an apparent lack of knowledge in buying a coin that you examined (or should have) prior to making the purchase. [/COLOR] Bingo. And how did these collectors become seasoned? Experience. I'm sure they all got burned during the "seasoning". They chalk it up to a lesson learned. They don't come on an internet forum complaining. Apples to oranges. Unscrupulous sellers on eBay used mail order, doctored or fuzzy pictures, bad written descriptions, or failure to send the merchandise. None of these factor into your situation. You had the coin in hand, had the magnification to closely examine it (or, maybe a rookie mistake not bringing a loupe to a coin show), had the opportunity to ask specific questions directly to the seller (has this coin been cleaned?, it looks like it's been whizzed) and hand the coin back if the answers to those questions were not to your satisfaction. If this is not the dealer in question, then this statement is irrelevant. We all know some shady characters. Most of us avoid them. I still think the case you cite is not the same. First of all, this was a large volume dealer. Are you implying the dealer in your case has "ripped off" thousands of customers. We really haven't established that he ripped you off yet. Why complain to show managers? What was so unfair about this transaction? The dealer marked his flip as "AU". It came back "AU", details because of the whizzing. You had the opportunity to look at the coin, in hand, and ask the dealer if the marks you noticed were from cleaning or whizzing. Even if you did, and he said "No", you should have suspected (since in my scenario, you noticed suspicious marks and asked) this was a problem coin, and put your money back in your pocket and walked away. I'm still siding with the dealer on this one. It still doesn't look like he did anything blatantly wrong. [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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