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<p>[QUOTE="omahaorange, post: 1533084, member: 28199"]The case you cite doesn't really apply in this instance. Near as I can tell from reading some of the posts (the link to the article did not work for me) that was against a basement slabber who certified his coins as higher than they were. In your case, what you got what the dealer's <b>opinion</b> (not a certification) of what that coin would grade, and as you state, he graded it AU and it came back from ANACS as AU. The whizzing is pretty much irrelevant, since you didn't notice it either. And it would be difficult to prove you specifically asked if the coin was cleaned or whizzed, and he answered "No". So, based on what you've written here, and the support for your argument you just posted, I'm sticking by my original assessment.</p><p><br /></p><p>And before we throw out the "...He's a dealer, he should have known..." argument, look at what the first line of the quote above says (<i><b>but the graded coins are usually sold above GS ask; so raw coins are a crapshoot but give you the only shot at making money or at least not losing, but also have the highest risk.</b></i>) It seems that you bought this coin with the intention of flipping for a profit, so what makes this any different than any other dealer. I agree with crapshoot analogy, but throw craps in Vegas and see if they give you back your bet. You win some, you lose some. If my thinking is correct, you rolled the dice thinking you could make some money, and didn't. This really isn't the dealer's fault. As a coin buyer, it falls upon you to know what you're looking at. Especially if you intend to profit from the deal.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="omahaorange, post: 1533084, member: 28199"]The case you cite doesn't really apply in this instance. Near as I can tell from reading some of the posts (the link to the article did not work for me) that was against a basement slabber who certified his coins as higher than they were. In your case, what you got what the dealer's [B]opinion[/B] (not a certification) of what that coin would grade, and as you state, he graded it AU and it came back from ANACS as AU. The whizzing is pretty much irrelevant, since you didn't notice it either. And it would be difficult to prove you specifically asked if the coin was cleaned or whizzed, and he answered "No". So, based on what you've written here, and the support for your argument you just posted, I'm sticking by my original assessment. And before we throw out the "...He's a dealer, he should have known..." argument, look at what the first line of the quote above says ([I][B]but the graded coins are usually sold above GS ask; so raw coins are a crapshoot but give you the only shot at making money or at least not losing, but also have the highest risk.[/B][/I]) It seems that you bought this coin with the intention of flipping for a profit, so what makes this any different than any other dealer. I agree with crapshoot analogy, but throw craps in Vegas and see if they give you back your bet. You win some, you lose some. If my thinking is correct, you rolled the dice thinking you could make some money, and didn't. This really isn't the dealer's fault. As a coin buyer, it falls upon you to know what you're looking at. Especially if you intend to profit from the deal.[/QUOTE]
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