Retained Die Cud

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by ikandiggit, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Finally dug this one out and took new pics of it. It's a 1940 cent:

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  3. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

    Looks like it might just be lamination. can we get a pic of the obverse?
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Definitely a retained cud... cool!!!
     
  5. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    You'll have to wait until tomorrow.... I'm at work today.
     
  6. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I'm with Billyray on this one. I think it's lamination also. With the jog in the outer perimeter of the wheat stalk, where it shows apparent seperation, it should show a corresponding notch in the outer perimeter of the die. Also the crack running up through the center of the wheat stalk should be wider and raised.
     
  7. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I'll get better close-ups tonight. The first time I posted this, it was on coppercoins and that was the determination they came up with. I have a lot of coins with laminations and they are different.

    Someone on one of the forums posted a very similar one to mine about a year or so ago.
     
  8. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    this looks more like dried glue to me but not sure from just looking at the photo.
     
  9. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I remember that coin too. I tried searching a little and couldn't find it.
    I think it was in a thread on something else.
    If your coin shows a weakness in the obverse rim directly opposite, I might change my opinion.
    Here's one I found, it's a memorial and not a wheat however.
     

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  10. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    More pics...... what do you guys think?

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  11. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I'll stick with my original assessment. ;)
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Definitely correct!
     
  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It shows the characteristic diagnostics of a retained cud. The internal margin shows vertical displacement and the design sits on a low plateau. This has always been assumed to be a sign that this part of the die had broken off but was held in place by the collar. I am not entirely comfortable with this assumption, but that's the consensus view.
     
  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

  15. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

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