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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2019474, member: 112&quot;]Coin dip, which is what he is using even though it is diluted, will remove both artificial and natural toning. And in many, if not most, cases there is no way to distinguish one from the other. Coins toned with gasses for example are indistinguishable from naturally toned coins. And again in many if not most cases, the person dipping the coin doesn&#039;t care if the toning is AT or NT, they just want to remove the toning from the coin because they don&#039;t like it. Or because they suspect that dipping the coin will be beneficial. And even possibly reveal a gem underneath it.</p><p><br /></p><p>But here is the problem, you never know what will lie underneath that toning. Like CBD says above - </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Striking out, as he put it, is often the case. Dipping the coin often results in being detrimental rather than beneficial. Or to put it another way a $1000 coin suddenly becomes a $200 coin because it was dipped. Now that is not because the dipping damaged the coin, but rather because the dipping revealed what previously could not be seen. Once dipped you may see that the coin is covered with hairlines from having been harshly cleaned long ago, or wear that could not be seen may be revealed. Even unseen damage and corrosion can be revealed by the dipping.</p><p><br /></p><p>CBD obviously knows this, but he also knows that sometimes you win rather than losing. It&#039;s basically a coin flip, unless you have the knowledge&nbsp; and experience to be able to judge the specific coin. In the specific cases he posted about he recognized specific varieties, and that gave him a bit of an edge. So that even if the dipping revealed detrimental underlying issues, they could perhaps be offset by better revealing the variety. And he got lucky.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, for those who read this thread, don&#039;t think that dipping a coin is some magical answer, it isn&#039;t. Yes, it can be, but it can also be a disaster. It is important that is always remembered. </p><p><br /></p><p>Also, CBD&#039;s method, yes it worked and worked well for him. But it could have been all over and done with in about 1 second, literally. And with the same results. But he preferred to take the slow method, and there&#039;s nothing wrong with that. But it doesn&#039;t change what the outcome will be. If there is a disaster underlying the toning <u>it will be revealed</u> by the slow method <u>and</u> the quick method both. </p><p><br /></p><p>The slow method merely lessens the chances of you making a mistake by not dipping the coin properly. But using the slow method does not mean you won&#039;t make a mistake and ruin the coin, you still can.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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