Republicans doing things

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  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I apologize for offending those who did not know the term for coins struck before the formation of the Roman Empire. This is the second time I have had a problem with word selection. I once had to change the name of my page on the twelve most common Roman coins found in lots of uncleaned coins from the Dirty Dozen to Twelve Types since some schools' anti-porn filters would not allow the words dirty or uncleaned on pages with photos. I have stopped writing web pages so that will not happen again.
     
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  3. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I never considered the title to be political at all. It is now obvious to me that it could be read as such. Doug mentioned in another thread that he disliked reverses with a figure just standing there doing nothing. I just assumed that "republicans doing things" was in response to earlier comments. As far as I am concerned Doug has no fault in this as he was writing for an audience accustomed to ancient coins including coins of the Roman republic.
     
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  4. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Doug. as I said I ,and most did not have any trouble with the title, just I knew the non ancient collectors might start making it a political discussion thread, which doesn't have to be just words these days, memes, videos, emoji can all be guilty also. You long-termers do very well at maintaining order and dispensing knowledge throughout very long threads. Jim
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Well, here are some republicans doing something:
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    and a coin not related to the image:
    MN. AUILLIUS ROMAN REPUBLIC.jpg
    MN. AQUILLIUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS AQUILLIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: VIRTVS III VIR ; Helmeted bust of Virtus right.
    REVERSE: MN AQVIL M N F MN N SICIL in ex.; The consul Man. Aquillius raising Sicilia
    Rome 71 BC
    3.3g, 19mm
    RSC/Aquillia-2, SYD-798
     
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  6. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    oligarcians (or BCE Roman coiners) doing things
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice birthday coins, Doug :). As for subject matter other than SST (someone standing there), Roman Republicans are a gold mine. Or certainly a silver mine :D.

    Even the RR SSTs are pretty interesting. Here's Diana standing there, looking straight outta Blair Witch Project. That poor stag looks panicked. He should be. Creepy chick, that Diana.

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    L. Hostilius Saserna
    48 BCE
    AR denarius, 19 mm, 4.1 g, 6 h. Rome
    Obv: Bare head of a Gallic woman to right, with long disheveled hair; behind, carnyx; in field to right, 3 test cuts.
    Rev: L.HOSTILIVS / SASERNA Artemis (Diana) standing facing, holding stag with her right hand and spear with her left
    Ref: Crawford 448/3. Sydenham 953.
    Ex W. F. Stoecklin, Amriswil, Switzerland, acquired prior to 1975.

    But you called for action so here are a few more dynamic RRs.

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    Roman Republic
    moneyer L. Julius L. f. Caesar, 103 BC

    AR denarius, 17mm, 3.9 gm
    Obv: Helmeted head of Mars left; CAESAR; ・C (retrograde)
    Rev: Venus Genetrix in chariot left, drawn by two Cupids; lyre to left; ・C (retrograde) above
    Ref: Crawford 320/1
    ex RBW Collection

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, Moneyer Q. Crepereius M.f. Rocus
    69 BCE (revised from Crawford's 72 BCE)
    AR serrate denarius; 3.99 gm
    Obv: draped bust of Amphitrite seen from behind, with head turned r.; behind, sea anemone; horizontal I to right of right shoulder (only partly visible on this coin)
    Rev: Neptune in biga of hippocamps right, holding reins and brandishing trident; above, I and below, Q·CREPER·M·F / ROCVS
    Ref: Crawford 399/1b; Babelon Crepereia 1. Sydenham 796a. Rare.
    from HJB BBS 200, October 2016
    ex NAC 78 lot 1828, from the JD Collection of Roman Republican Coins



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    Roman Imperatorial, moneyer L. Plautius Plancus
    47 BCE
    AR Denarius, 3.79 gm
    Obv: L. PLAVTIVS; facing mask of Medusa, serpents at either side of face; banker's mark on cheek
    Rev: PLANCVS; Aurora flying right and conducting the four horses of the sun. Banker's mark in left field.
    Ref: Plautia 15b Sear 429, Cr453/1b; Syd 959a.
    formerly slabbed by NGC
     
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  8. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    There's already a couple like it in this thread, but I haven't gotten to show this coin here yet:

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    M. Sergius Silus, 116 BC

    I don't have it in hand yet, but I recently won this coin that I have been coveting since I started collecting. It shows Roman Republicans doing their civic duty:

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    P. Licinius Nerva, 113-112 BC, Crawford 292
     
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  9. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Here are a few more of my Republican coins

    Some have more action than others, but most do have some type of action....which is more than I can say about most imperials with the standing or sitting reverse figures being the norm.

    M. Fonteius AR Denarius.jpg C. Vibius C.F. Pansa AR Denarius feat. Minerva.jpg M Junius Silanus denarius RR.jpg M. Scaurus Denarius (white) (1).jpg L Thorius Balbus (1).jpg L Capurnius Piso Frugi (1).jpg
     
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  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Wasn't sure you had snagged that Stoecklin Saserna... excellent! And I can't help but comment on the centring of your Plautius Plancus. So satisfying to look at when so many of them are o/c. :)

    Hey elephant! Doug says stop standing there and do something! :bored:
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    Q. Caecilius Metellus Pius (81 BCE) ..... elephant is not political^^^

    These guys are even worse, aren't even bothering to stand.:rolleyes:
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    L. Calpurnius Piso/Q. Servilius Caepio, 100 BC
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    The reverse of this one shows a pre-Republican action scene, but you could argue that abduction of the Sabine women was the event that started everything. Surely someone has an example better than my rather junky one :).

    RR - Sabinus Transportation Sabines 1677.jpg
    ROMAN REPUBLIC
    AR Denarius. 3.96g, 20.6mm. Rome mint, 89 BC. Crawford 344/1a; Sydenham 698. O: SABIN, bareheaded and bearded head of King Tatius right; ligate TA (for Tatius) to right. R: L TITVRI, Rape of the Sabine Women : two soldiers, facing each other, each carrying off a Sabine woman in his arms.
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Exactly my point. Go trample a snake or something. This thread has demonstrated the special status of the coins of the Roman Oligarchs, As I pointed out, the 'just standing there' boring ones have someone driving a chariot pulled by boring horses. Real Romans ride reptiles. :sour:
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    I appreciate your non-political pachyderm but want to be careful not to offend those whose affiliation tends more to the Bull Moose Party (look it up if necessary). My moose isn't very bullish. Did someone here buy Steve's sestertius? Is there a moose from the Early Roman pre-Imperial period?
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Republican Motion:
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    RR L Livineius Regulus AR Denarius 42 BCE 3.8g 19mm Regu bust - Gladiators in Arena Cr 494-30 Syd 1112 Sear 489

    RR Anon AE Semuncia 217-215 BC Turreted Horseman Whip Roma 2 Cr 39-5 S 619.jpg
    Anonymous. Semuncia ca 217-215 BCE, Æ
    Obv: Turreted and draped female bust r.
    Rev: Galloping Horseman r., holding whip in r. hand and reins in l.; below, ROMA.
    Cr. 39-5 Sear 619

    RR Anon AE Double-Litra 275-270 BC Apollo Lion S 590 Cr 16-1a.jpg
    RR Anon
    AE Double-Litra 275-270 BCE
    Apollo
    Lion stalking moderns collectors
    Sear 590 Cr 16-1a
     
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  14. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

     

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  15. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    family planning, early Roman style -
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    Three denarii by L. Titurius L.f. Sabinus, 89 BC.
    Obv - King Titus Tatius to right
    Rev 1 - dating between the Roman men and Sabine women
    Rev 2 - two soldiers hurling shields onto Tarpeia
    Rev 3 - boring horses, and might I add an ugly coin. The interesting part of this coin: is the symbol an archaic L, a V or a left handed check mark.
    Crawford 344/1-3
    @zumbly - I don't think my date coin is any better, but I do like Tarpeia's hair.

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    I like the symbol on my snake driven wheels.

    More pachyderms on coins
    L. Caecilius Metellus Diadematus.jpg L. Caecilius Metellus Diadematus r.jpg Grueber Series II 99 to 95 BC obv.JPG rev.jpg
     
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  16. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Dougsmit, don't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for (post #21)!

    And Jim,

    Yes we would....after all those Zincoln & error threads, we need an occasional dose of reality (read: wisdom & knowledge). And besides, everyone knows that the ancients throw the best parties!! In fact, when I'm here, it's the only time my avatar is deactivated! :D:D:D
     
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  17. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

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  18. Agricantus

    Agricantus Allium aflatunense

    What a fun thread & title! Sorry I'm late with a contribution to the republicans' party. Here's Europa in delicate balancing act (picture courtesy of CNG)

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