Replica - but of what?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by GeorgeM, Jan 17, 2021.

  1. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I picked up this token and strongly suspect it's a modern replica. But, I can't figure out what it's a replica *of*.

    About 17mm in diameter. Appears to have Greek letters? Horseback rider on one side, indescript bust with ringlets on the other.

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    A sad example of L. Calpurnius Piso Frugi denarius.
     
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  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here is another example of this fake:-

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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Bunches were minted by Rome to begin paying for the Social War with the Italic Peoples (Marsic Confederation).

    In a nutshell, Rome won the war militarily, but LOST the War as they gave EVERY concession that the Italian Allies were needing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_War_(91–87_BC)

    This was kinda their "Dollar" or "Euro" in today's thought...

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    RR Calpurnius Piso Frugi 90 BCE Social War AR Denarius CXXXII ROM-A monogram Apollo Horseman - Marsic S 235 Cr 340-1

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    RR Calpurnius Piso Frugi 90 BCE Social AR Den Apollo Horseman S 235 Cr 340-1


    This was kinda their "Half-Dollar" or "50 Cent Piece"

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    RR L Calpurnius Piso Frugi AR Quinarius 90 BCE 13 mm 1.93g 2 h Rome Laureate head of Apollo right uncertain symbol behind Victory advancing right holding wreath and palm Cr 340-2 Calpurnia 13
     
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  8. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Interesting example of the "pressed" fakes that are so prevalent these days (eBay + Bulgaria). Note the sharp edges all around, and the way the strike has a uniform flat look to it. Interesting that the counterfeiters showed the border of dots trailing off in an incomplete fashion, to mimic ancient striking characteristics. The tone/spotting on the OP is particularly nefarious! The one shared by maridvnvm is much more "tokeny" if only because of the lack of patina (otherwise they are identical).

    There is an educational opportunity here, I think.

    Here's the 90 B.C. and 67 B.C. versions of this type - notice the incomplete border of dots on the one on the left - the flan is somewhat bent here and I suspect they wore off. Other posts above also look like this:
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