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<p>[QUOTE="ctrl, post: 1469802, member: 13378"]Um... the coin market is neither an investment market, nor is it regulated. There is no law against what the TPGs or CAC do - and they never say anything about the price or value of the coin, simply the state of conservation. The discussion is most certainly NOT about "fraudulent activities" because there is no fraud happening. Everything is well-explained with no assertion of price or value. There is no fraud, and neither you nor anyone else has even tried to explain how there possibly could be. Your "definition" of fraud is a fraud itself. Besides the fact that coins are not anything at all remotely similar to federally-regulated stocks, what you described would also include things like advertising, product placement, endorsements, and so on. </p><p><br /></p><p>I've never seen a coin prospectus, have you? </p><p><br /></p><p>There is nothing fraudulent in what the TPGs or CAC do, and it's a very strange joke to be asserting there is, especially comparing the situation to federally-regulated investments. Those investments have income and costs and published future estimations that determine the price. Coins do not, and neither the TPGs nor CAC say ANYTHING about price. That's entirely left up to the market. </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>And yet the market (i.e. buyers) finds it quite useful and reasonably reliable. John Albanese is not just some random Joe.</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>Exactly. However, "strong for the grade" translates into MS63.4-MS63.9, since they separate into A, B, C.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ctrl, post: 1469802, member: 13378"]Um... the coin market is neither an investment market, nor is it regulated. There is no law against what the TPGs or CAC do - and they never say anything about the price or value of the coin, simply the state of conservation. The discussion is most certainly NOT about "fraudulent activities" because there is no fraud happening. Everything is well-explained with no assertion of price or value. There is no fraud, and neither you nor anyone else has even tried to explain how there possibly could be. Your "definition" of fraud is a fraud itself. Besides the fact that coins are not anything at all remotely similar to federally-regulated stocks, what you described would also include things like advertising, product placement, endorsements, and so on. I've never seen a coin prospectus, have you? There is nothing fraudulent in what the TPGs or CAC do, and it's a very strange joke to be asserting there is, especially comparing the situation to federally-regulated investments. Those investments have income and costs and published future estimations that determine the price. Coins do not, and neither the TPGs nor CAC say ANYTHING about price. That's entirely left up to the market. And yet the market (i.e. buyers) finds it quite useful and reasonably reliable. John Albanese is not just some random Joe. Exactly. However, "strong for the grade" translates into MS63.4-MS63.9, since they separate into A, B, C.[/QUOTE]
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