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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 8201368, member: 110350"][USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] and [USER=99456]@Sulla80[/USER], I hope [USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER] sees this thread and is able to comment with his own opinion. But if Lucilla was, in fact, born on 7 March 149 rather than 7 March 151, that would certainly seem to blow out of the water the theory that my Ceres & Proserpina design from TR P XIIII was intended to celebrate her birth -- regardless of whether TR P XIIII began on 25 Dec. 150 or 25 Feb. 151. Of course, it remains possible that the coin was issued to celebrate the fact that Lucilla was still alive on or about her second birthday, or perhaps after recovery from a serious illness. Both of which would be worth celebrating if Faustina's and Marcus's first two children died in infancy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Or, it could have been issued to celebrate the birth of Faustina III in 150/151, although, given the presence of Lucilla, that birth would no longer have represented the restoration of a daughter and granddaughter to a previously childless Imperial family, and would no longer particularly fit the Ceres-Proserpina story. (Unless, once again, the occasion celebrated was not an actual birth but a recovery from illness.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Therefore, even if Curtis's chronology regarding Lucilla's birth date is incorrect, I don't think I'm stretching unduly to try to preserve his argument for a symbolic interpretation of the portrayal of Ceres and Proserpina as some sort of representation or celebration of Faustina II and one of her daughters (either Lucilla or Faustina III). Especially given the extreme rarity in Imperial times of numismatic portrayals of those two mythological figures together, and the propensity of that particular family to represent Faustina II with one or more children on Imperial coins, I think the interpretation is still reasonable.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I love the aureus regardless of whether it's correct![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 8201368, member: 110350"][USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] and [USER=99456]@Sulla80[/USER], I hope [USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER] sees this thread and is able to comment with his own opinion. But if Lucilla was, in fact, born on 7 March 149 rather than 7 March 151, that would certainly seem to blow out of the water the theory that my Ceres & Proserpina design from TR P XIIII was intended to celebrate her birth -- regardless of whether TR P XIIII began on 25 Dec. 150 or 25 Feb. 151. Of course, it remains possible that the coin was issued to celebrate the fact that Lucilla was still alive on or about her second birthday, or perhaps after recovery from a serious illness. Both of which would be worth celebrating if Faustina's and Marcus's first two children died in infancy. Or, it could have been issued to celebrate the birth of Faustina III in 150/151, although, given the presence of Lucilla, that birth would no longer have represented the restoration of a daughter and granddaughter to a previously childless Imperial family, and would no longer particularly fit the Ceres-Proserpina story. (Unless, once again, the occasion celebrated was not an actual birth but a recovery from illness.) Therefore, even if Curtis's chronology regarding Lucilla's birth date is incorrect, I don't think I'm stretching unduly to try to preserve his argument for a symbolic interpretation of the portrayal of Ceres and Proserpina as some sort of representation or celebration of Faustina II and one of her daughters (either Lucilla or Faustina III). Especially given the extreme rarity in Imperial times of numismatic portrayals of those two mythological figures together, and the propensity of that particular family to represent Faustina II with one or more children on Imperial coins, I think the interpretation is still reasonable. But I love the aureus regardless of whether it's correct![/QUOTE]
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