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<p>[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 1480556, member: 36230"]Then keep on walkin' hot shot.</p><p><br /></p><p>Who are you to insult the OP for simply trying to educate average and (as in many cases here) new collectors? What have you done to help anyone? At least she tried. Everything on the OP's list are excellent and experienced suggestions that should be taken at face value. Do you really think she or any other established dealer needs someone who thinks that they (for whatever reason) are somehow entitled to buy at their price, and if they cannot, it's all the "idiot dealers" fault and/or stupidity? While there is nothing wrong with making an offer, if refused and you think the same coin can be had elsewhere for less, go buy it instead of complaining.</p><p><br /></p><p>Have you ever invested your blood, sweat, and tears into locating quality material to offer to potential customers, then have to deal with some obstinate schmuck who thinks that, just because he has a CDN or claims to be a "dealer", he somehow deserves to buy at his price? If not, maybe you should try it sometime.. loads of fun and you may develop a few found respect for the person on the other side of the table. No one will argue the fact that some dealers are not the nicest of people, but to act as if all are trash is ridiculous. If you want to collect common dreck, its everywhere so have at it. However, if you want quality, especially if collecting a not-so-common type or a type where quality is tough, a good dealer can be more of a benefit than many seem to realize. While I do not know the OP, it only takes a few seconds to look at her site and see that she has a specialty, a passion, and a knowledge of said specialty that fly-by-night "dealers" will not have. Do you realize that someone like the OP will almost always have access to better coins than the average generalized coin dealer? Has it occurred to you that many of the dealers you so clearly despise also sell on ebay? Regardless of what you want to fancy yourself as being, the fact remains that the only dealer who needs to cater to someone like you is a dreck dealer, and it is as simple as that.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>OP,</p><p><br /></p><p>Please allow me to respectfully add to your suggestion....</p><p><br /></p><p><b>"-Don’t choose the highest quality coins in a dealer’s case and then expect to pay a wholesale price – </b>dealers usually have to pay strong prices to acquire quality pieces, so don’t insult them by choosing their best coins and wanting to buy them at wholesale or Grey Sheet prices.<b>"</b></p><p><br /></p><p> Once an initial offer is made, if it is declined or countered and you do not like it, let it go.. do not push or argue. Thank them for their time and walk away. If you can buy the same coin of the same quality elsewhere, do the legwork and find it yourself. Don't expect a dealer to have to do the work and not be compensated for it. If you are not willing to pay, this is your decision and not always the dealer who is being unreasonable. If the coin is common and the dealer wants too much, move on... this is not rocket science. Respect begets respect and attitude begets attitude... this works both ways.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Of course... because you can add nothing of substance, the insults fly. Maybe I should attach a photo of a crying baby for you?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 1480556, member: 36230"]Then keep on walkin' hot shot. Who are you to insult the OP for simply trying to educate average and (as in many cases here) new collectors? What have you done to help anyone? At least she tried. Everything on the OP's list are excellent and experienced suggestions that should be taken at face value. Do you really think she or any other established dealer needs someone who thinks that they (for whatever reason) are somehow entitled to buy at their price, and if they cannot, it's all the "idiot dealers" fault and/or stupidity? While there is nothing wrong with making an offer, if refused and you think the same coin can be had elsewhere for less, go buy it instead of complaining. Have you ever invested your blood, sweat, and tears into locating quality material to offer to potential customers, then have to deal with some obstinate schmuck who thinks that, just because he has a CDN or claims to be a "dealer", he somehow deserves to buy at his price? If not, maybe you should try it sometime.. loads of fun and you may develop a few found respect for the person on the other side of the table. No one will argue the fact that some dealers are not the nicest of people, but to act as if all are trash is ridiculous. If you want to collect common dreck, its everywhere so have at it. However, if you want quality, especially if collecting a not-so-common type or a type where quality is tough, a good dealer can be more of a benefit than many seem to realize. While I do not know the OP, it only takes a few seconds to look at her site and see that she has a specialty, a passion, and a knowledge of said specialty that fly-by-night "dealers" will not have. Do you realize that someone like the OP will almost always have access to better coins than the average generalized coin dealer? Has it occurred to you that many of the dealers you so clearly despise also sell on ebay? Regardless of what you want to fancy yourself as being, the fact remains that the only dealer who needs to cater to someone like you is a dreck dealer, and it is as simple as that. OP, Please allow me to respectfully add to your suggestion.... [B]"-Don’t choose the highest quality coins in a dealer’s case and then expect to pay a wholesale price – [/B]dealers usually have to pay strong prices to acquire quality pieces, so don’t insult them by choosing their best coins and wanting to buy them at wholesale or Grey Sheet prices.[B]"[/B] Once an initial offer is made, if it is declined or countered and you do not like it, let it go.. do not push or argue. Thank them for their time and walk away. If you can buy the same coin of the same quality elsewhere, do the legwork and find it yourself. Don't expect a dealer to have to do the work and not be compensated for it. If you are not willing to pay, this is your decision and not always the dealer who is being unreasonable. If the coin is common and the dealer wants too much, move on... this is not rocket science. Respect begets respect and attitude begets attitude... this works both ways. Of course... because you can add nothing of substance, the insults fly. Maybe I should attach a photo of a crying baby for you?[/QUOTE]
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